Pentecost

LBernier at tribune.com LBernier at tribune.com
Thu Jan 30 12:37:04 CST 1997


     a-and in genesis it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, while Noah sat 
     high and dry in his arc.
     
     Jean


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Subject: Re: Pentecost
Author:  tstanton at nationalgeographic.com at Internet_tco
Date:    1/29/97 11:06 PM


Paul Mackin wrote:
> That 50 days into the liturgical year as reaching the majority needed 
> to grasp power (suggested by Heikki) hadn't occurred to me.
     
Maybe that old Roman Catholic backround of mine is rusty, but 
isn't it 40 days/nights for most stuff? I recall Pentacost & 
green garments lasting a long time, more than 50 days (7+ weeks). 
If memory serves, you get advent (24 days in purple), Christmas
& the Epithany (30 days in white), Lent (40 day in black), 
Easter (40 days in white) and Pentacost (green) making up most 
of the rest. I know I'm missing a liturgical season or two in here 
somewhere...
     
> Don't know much of Joachim's Trinitarian theory of history but do 
> remember that in the time of the Holy Spirit the tired old forms
> dating from the Father and the Son can be expected to be  replaced 
> by vital new ones. In other words, the Counterforce.
     
In the bad old Latin mass days the Holy Spirit was a divine 
messenger who had the work horse role of impregnating divine 
virgins, topping off apostles with tongues of fire, et. al., but
after the Ecumetical(sp?) Council Das Boird became a kind of channeler 
that eventually spawned the Pentacostal Christians who spoke in tongues 
and were possessed of the spirit as were the apostles (knew a few in
an another time). Still a serious Catholic sub cult in some places.
     
> Not to carry this too far, I wonder if "American Pie" (apple most 
> likely) doesn't have previously unexplored meaning.
> The three men I admire most,
> The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost,
> Just caught the last train for the coast, 
> The day the music died.
     
Well...I don't think Don McLean was going Pentacostal here... 
just a great line.



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