Just a thought on Seagull...

[Thomas Vieth]

Hi Meg,
could you possibly give me the exact spot for the Nietzsche quotation?
Thomas

On Thu, 1 May 1997, Meg Larson wrote:

> "Truths are illusions which we have forgotten are illusions; they are
> metaphors that have become worn out and have been drained of sensuous
> force, coins which have lost their embossing and are now considered as
> metal and no longer as coins"
>   ---Friedrich Nietzsche                                                   
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> 
> Meg Larson
> Saginaw Valley State University
> mgl at tardis.svsu.edu              
> 
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> > From: Jules Siegel <jsiegel at pdc.caribe.net.mx>
> > To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> > Subject: Re: Just a thought on Seagull...
> > Date: Wednesday, April 30, 1997 10:50 PM
> >Jules whines:
>  
> > Go look through Thomas Pynchon's works for material derived from
> > unattributed sources. You'll find plenty. No one here will accuse him of
> > plagiarism, of course.
> > 
> > I suggest that you compare Thomas Pynchon's descriptions of SHOCK and
> SHROUD
> > in V. with the radiation dummies manufactured by Alderson Research for
> the
> > Atomic Energy Commission in 1958-59. I gave Pynchon some of their press
> > materials and brochures when he visited me in New York in 1959.
> > 
> > Neither Alderson, nor I (nor The New York Times, which published
> photographs
> > along with a story about the devices that was part of the press kit)
> > received any credit.
> 
> I knew it!  I just had this sneaking suspicion, mentioned it off-list to
> Dr. T, a-and now it's has it? oh yes it has BEEN CONFIRMED--this is just
> one big pissing contest between Jules and Pynchon, although it's only
> manifesting itself through Jules.  The Book is out, and we're losing our
> fascination w/ Jules' little coattail trip.  A-and excuse me if I've got
> this all wrong, but this is not our perception of the world; it's your
> projection, Jules.  
> 
> When will little Jules just take the goddamn ball and GO HOME?!?!
> >
> Eating nails and lots of broken glass 'til my copy gets here, 
> Meg
> 
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