GRGR (15): Good & Evil (was Enzian...)

[David Morris]

>From: Paul Mackin
>
>On Thu, 16 Dec 1999, David Morris wrote:
> >
> > You must be kidding. (about the adult wanting the child to want it)
> >
> > Just check out NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association)(I 
>think).
> > That's their bottom line: the boys want it; let the young free to pursue
> > love w/ a man.
> >
> > Also, read Lolita.  A very sexy, disturbing read.
>
>Well, Lolitia is a B-O-O-K.

Obviusly, but it plumbs the depths of Humbert's mind, thus exploring this 
issue.  Fiction, I know, but also "real."

>Don't know about the other case cited.

I disavow any connection w/ NAMBLA (and personally am glad for laws 
protecting children from the advances of adults), but some quotes from their 
web-site:
http://qrd.rdrop.com/qrd/orgs/NAMBLA/quotes

"It is quite difficult to lay down barriers [particularly since] it
could be that the child, with his own sexuality, may have desired the
adult."
  - Michel Foucault speaking against age-of-consent laws, as cited in
James Miller's The Passion of Michel Foucault (New York: Simon and
Schuster, 1992)

"In those cases where children do have sex with their homosexual
elders... I submit that often, very often, the child desires the
activity, and perhaps even solicits it, either because of a natural
curiosity... or because he or she is homosexual and innately know it.
... And unlike girls or women forced into rape or traumatized, most
gay men have warm memories of their earliest and early sexual
encounters; when we share these stories with each other, they are
invariably positive ones."
  - Larry Kramer, writer and founder of the AIDS Coalition to Unleash
Power (ACT-UP), in Reports from the Holocaust (New York: St. Martin's
Press, 1991)

"If I were to see the case of a boy aged ten or eleven who's intensely
erotically attracted toward a man in his twenties or thirties, if the
relationship is totally mutual, and the bonding is genuinely totally
mutual, then I would not call it pathological in any way."
  - John Money, Professor Emeritus of Medical Psychology, Johns
Hopkins University, in an interview in Paidika: The Journal of
Paedophilia, spring 1991




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