GRGR(3) a. talking dog 44.2 - a bone to pick

[Terrance F. Flaherty]

rj wrote:

> > but
> > sometimes we have actors on the stage with lines-- an objective point of
> > view, right?
>
> But what Pynchon does with his camera is Eisensteinian. The camera is in
> the *midst*. We can't ever conquer this Olympian perspective. It's
> ever-elusive, but we suspect/hope it's there.

OK, I like that, in the "midst."

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> > much of what we know about R&J's
> > relationship is really someone else's relationship recalled and compared to
> > the current one he sees in R&J, right?
>
> Right. Except that the "he" [sic] is us, the reader.
>

What I had in mind is Pirate's wondering about Roger's involvement in Operation
Black Wing, and his reminiscing about his own love affair with one Scorpia
Mossmoon--wife of Clive, the unhappy ending of which sent him back into the
army.

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> > And we have Pynchon's--Objective perspective as well ! The scientific
> > > perspective grafted to a pure Artistic form--beautiful.
>
> Sort of. More like this:
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> "I'm an eye. A mechanical eye. I, the machine, show you a world the  way
> only I can see it. I free myself today and forever from human
> immobility. I'm in constant movement. I approach and pull away from
> objects. I creep under them. I move alongside a running horse's mouth. I
> fall and rise with the falling and rising bodies. This is I, the
> machine, manoeuvring in the chaotic movements, recording one movement
> after another in the most complex combinations.
>
> Freed from the boundaries of time and space, I co-ordinate any and all
> points of the universe, wherever I want them to be. My way leads towards
> the creation of a fresh perception of the world. Thus I explain in a new
> way the world unknown to you."

This is quite different from what I have in mind. What you describe is not so
much a perspective as a method ("my way leads towards). May be objective, though
I doubt it. Sounds Sophistic--with creative principles, subjective perspective.

Terrance

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