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[David &/or Jane]

>In no current corporate, industrial workplace, pedagogic or
>domestic theory of practice that I know of is telling people
>to shut up an effective form of conflict resolution. Perhaps
>it was back in the 50s and 60s and before, perhaps it is in
>a dictatorship where naysayers can be taken out and shot, but,
>it is quite simply and demonstrably *not* an efficient solution
>to inter-personal conflict in a ‘democratic’ community.

Good point.  As an architect, I've worked for many bosses.  Most couldn't
give a shit about "a ‘democratic’ community."  In fact, most have been as
DICK-ta-torial as they could get away with.  What is the end result of such
practice?  Massive turnover w/ a small core of ass-kissers.

I have also worked in environments where opinions are encouraged, even from
the "least" employee.  The "multitude of counselors" (see O.T. Bible) works
when fear of reprisal is removed.   Only a Boss who is unafraid of being
wrong, and thus eagerly listens to the employees truly employs.  The rest
squelch vast resources.

>I agree also with Murthy about the delay in the dialogue being a
>detrimental side-effect,

As a digest subscriber, I know the lag frustrates dialogue.  If everyone on
this list were so restrained, more thought might inhibit the childish
outbursts, but as an anarchist-at-heart, I see the "crap" on this list as
the necesary by-product: smells bad now, but what is the alternative?
Tight Sphincters!  Lord save us!

>Murthy called for expressions of opinion. Perhaps I should have shown
>more self-restraint and kept this one to myself?

No.
Push that shit out!
God save us from those tight asses!


David