GRGR(9) - Slothrop Meets Grigori

[Terrance F. Flaherty]

David Morris wrote:
> 
> >From: "Terrance F. Flaherty"
> >
> >David Morris wrote:
> [snip]
> > >
> > > The she in Pointsman's-Minotaur equation is "Venus/Ariadne."
> > >
> > > They are linked as synonymous.  Ariadne is a stand-in for Venus.  "... a
> > > mandate from the submontane Venus ... Venus and Ariadne!" (p. 88)
> >Ariadne
> > > was the Bait for Thesius to go after the Minotaur, her half-brother.
> >But
> > > after killing the Minotaur and making off to a remote Island w/ Ariadne,
> > > Thesius abandons/imprisons her on a remote Island.  She is discovered by
> > > Venus who promises her a new lover, Bacchus.
> >
> >OK, And Bacchus is one of Slothrop's roles? Can we nail this
> >down?
> >
> >I can make a good argument for Heracles.
> >
> >TF
> >
> 
> I saw your Octopus/Hydra post and I think it fits well.  The many
> headed/legged creatures and their regenerative powers, the crab, and the
> hero all groove.  Only the girl is missing, but why not?  It's interesting
> that Heracles is not "given credit" for this feat:
> from:
> 
> http://www.clubi.ie/lestat/ofgodsh.html#Labourslink
> "Having defeated the Hydra,Hercules dipped his arrows in the poison of the
> monster,but on returning to Eurystheus was told that the slaying of the
> Hydra did not count as one of the Labours,since Iolaos had rendered
> assistance."

Yes, but I think we are getting off track now. You say that
Slothrop is in Bacchus role here. He has some
characteristics that might be drawn from Bacchus, but I
could argue that he has more attributes of Heracles and I
can even find the missing girl. Now I don't say he is
Heracles here or throughout the novel, no more than I would
read Grigori as a fallen angel, but if we take katje as
Venus (as she seems to have venus like characteristics in
this section) and when we turn back to Pointy and his
labyrinth and his Minotaur equation -- Venus/Ariadne--you
suggest that Slothrop is a Bacchus figure. OK, I know the
literature.  What can we add to this? How can we
substantiate this role? How is Slothrop as Bacchus related
to his turning English/Regression  Momma/Ancestry ?? 

TF


> 
> Perhaps the "she" in this reading would be Iolaos, Heracles nephew.  We all
> know what those Greeks did with younger boys...  Nahh!
> 
> David Morris
> 
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