a bit more

[Doug Millison]

Thank you rj for posting those pointers to some of the early messages 
I wrote about the Holocaust in GR at the beginning of GRGR.

I'd like to emphasize one point I made from the very start of that 
thread, where I said (this is in one of the posts rj points to below):

"Then again,  it is possible that TRP didn't have any of these allusions in
mind at all, although having immersed himself in the WWII research
necessary to write GR it's difficult to imagine how he might have avoided
it.  And given what we encounter later in the novel, to argue that the
Holocaust is not central to GR seems a stretch, to me at least, although I
do understand that some people don't read it that way, and that's fine, too."

 From the beginning, I have been careful to leave room for others' 
opinions on this subject. Disagree if you wish, but as rj 
demonstrates, it's all there in the archives for anyone to read and 
judge.

Too bad,, that rj didn't include pointers to the posts containing his 
initial response to my *suggested readings* -- the posts where rj 
categorically denied the presence of the Holocaust in GR, which he 
later backed away from after I quoted the relevant descriptions from 
the Dora camp in Pokler's story.  It's more than a bit disingenuous 
of rj to omit this, but to be expected I suppose. The gesture would 
have been all the more gentlemanly had it been more intellectually 
honest.

Later,
Doug

P.S.  I think it says a lot when a Pynchon scholar like John Krafft 
observes how precious little of what gets said in this forum is worth 
paying any attention to.



rj said:

Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:03:07 +1100
From: "jbor" <jbor at bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: carry on

As promised this a.m., some of millison's posts from last May about the
novel's opening dream sequence alluding to the death camp trains:

http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=9905&msg=150&sort=author
http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=9905&msg=153&sort=author
http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=9905&msg=201&sort=author

And, a response to this thesis which I made at the time:

http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=9905&msg=817&sort=author

Seems strange to recall that this current reading has been going for some
15-odd months. Mucho thanks to s~Z and all the section hosts.

best

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