Pigmoms
David Morris
fqmorris at hotmail.com
Tue Jun 6 08:44:34 CDT 2000
>From: "J Suete"
>
>>I think, that all the words in Greek and Latin designating the piglet also
>>designate the female organ, and choiros + compound was on occasion used to
>>designate female characters, especially in Comedy (V. Vesp. 1364). The
>>womb is called 'delphys' and the suckling pig is 'delphax' (and I recall
>>having read someone's...perhaps by analogy...doomed effort to find hus in
>>hustera). Varro (R.R. 2.4.10) says that the ancient Latins called that
>>part which in girls is the mark of their sex, 'porcus.'<<
Jane! Now you're in the swing of it! You Go!
>My grandmother gave me a porcilain doll when I was 12 and I broke it when I
>was 18.
>
>>I guess I was a bit of a bitch and I'm sorry Mr. D.M. and Mr. D.M..
>>Sweeping generalizations about women and power--a major theme in The
>>Crying, Gravity's R., Vineland, and M&D-- get the bristles on my
>>chinnychinchin curling like a boars tooth piercing.<<
>>
>>Mr. Pynchon is a femenist. What flavor?<<
This subject, BTW, is completely off the track from where we started, which
was, don't forget, mainly about "the other white meat's" place in history,
with an a side dish containing pork's subsequent banishment (along w/
Porky's Goddess associates) by those male-centric mono-theistic religions.
>
>>How can we account for Mr. Pynchon's female characters? His mothers? His
>>daughters? His witches good and his witches evil?<<
>>
>>Are women the pigs, the piglets to be sacrificed in Pynchon's Gravity's
>>R.? Or are the children? Yes, it's the little ones, the boys mostly, but
>>the girls too. Why? And who is killing them? The mothers, right? The
>>mothers want their sons to die in war. Nalline wants this for her son. How
>>about that black bitch that murders children? And how does cross-dressing
>>and plastic fit into this sacrifice of the pig of god that takes away the
>>world from sin? Is this because women's power has been proscribed? Mothers
>>work for Them, they are the policemen of the soul, they make children
>>"crack": They hand her the orb and scepter, which in this case are grilled
>>pot roast and a whip, and the orchestra plays Tristan and Isolde 505.<<
Yep, pretty much all of the above. Mother, like Jessica-to-be, have "caught
the War. They've been co-opted. And the Fathers just leave, go away to the
War. But first they'll sell and/or sacrifice their Sons to the War.
>>It is because mothers are fertile, mysteriuosly endowed with a god's own
>>accident of creation. Within the Mother is the great cosmic force and for
>>this she must be condemned.<<
And feared.
DM
"You've got to keep the Devil down in the hole!"
Tom Waites
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