is it ok to be luddite
jbor
jbor at bigpond.com
Fri Jun 9 19:16:39 CDT 2000
It was actually the grey areas I was referring to, rather than attempting to
say that Greenpeace itself is constituted as a terrorist organisation. When
certain Greenpeace-affiliated individuals throw themselves in front of
earth-moving equipment or frog-kick their zippy boards into the path of
monstrous iron-hulled oil tankers they are engaging in something which
verges uncomfortably on terrorism in that they knowingly put themselves into
a situation where their own deaths might result unless the driver of the
vehicle, who has no intention to do violence to private citizens, public
property or political enemies, takes immediate evasive action. If not a
terrorist tactic then it's a form of moral or psychological blackmail at the
very least.
It's important to remember that there is a separation between the cause,
which might be noble and right as in the case of environmentalism, from the
actions of some or all of the exponents of that cause, which could be
terrorist. It's like the extremist fringes of the feminist and civil rights
movements, the militant lesbian separatists, Black Panthers and certain
other affirmative action lobbyists, who possibly did more harm to the causes
of gender and racial equity than the white male chauvinists whose balls and
brains they were determined to detach.
best
ps. Interestingly, pynchonfiles reports that
> New York Times Book Review of 28 October, features his article "Is it O.K.
> to be a Luddite" reflected on the conflicts between those who fear or value
> the advancement of technology. Pynchon's conflict was to be with Abe
> Rosenthal, the executive editor of The New York Times, who would not allow
> him to use the term "badass." Pynchon finally won the battle.
http://209.130.125.160/pynchonprint.htm
And Pynchon does in fact overtly locate himself on the affirmative side of
the question posed in the title of the article:
> If our world survives, the next great challenge to watch out for will come
> -- you heard it here first - when the curves of research and development in
> artificial intelligence, molecular biology and robotics all converge. Oboy.
> It will be amazing and unpredictable, and even the biggest of brass, let us
> devoutly hope, are going to be caught flat-footed. It is certainly
> something for all good Luddites to look forward to if, God willing, we
> should live so long.
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>From: Jedrzej Polak <jedpolak at mac.com>
>To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>, <jbor at bigpond.com>
>Subject: re: is it ok to be luddite
>Date: Sat, Jun 10, 2000, 2:44 AM
>
> If we agree that terrorism is violence toward private citizens, public
> property, and political enemies promoted by a political group to achieve or
> maintain supremacy, the good folks from Greenpeace cannot be regarded as
> terrorists because 1. their goals are far from political; 2; they do not
> strive to achieve or maintain supremacy. If you think otherwise, I would
> gladly see the examples of Greenpeace political terrorism (or any kind of
> terrorism at that!). Let us not try to overgeneralize, or soon we'll call
> Gandhi a moral terrorist!
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