Ernst Nolte
Spencer Thiel
spen at fictiondepartment.com
Thu Jun 22 19:51:11 CDT 2000
Regardless of the opinions held by Ernst Nolte, he was dismissed for views
that he held (at least according to the email, a source I have yet to
verify). A similar event happened to the French Holocaust revisionist
Robert Faurisson who was dismissed from the University of Lyon in
France. Regardless of their views, their dismissals are clear violations
of their rights to free speech, and thus easily applicable to the term
'thoughtcrime'. There can be no two ways about it: you are either for or
against free speech. And if you are for free speech, you are in favor of
exactly the kind of speech that said 'scholars' are making; that is, speech
that isn't in accordance with your own thoughts (and even in this case,
history truths).
Please don't interpret my remarks as being in some way in support of the
work that said 'scholars' have done. To deny the Holocaust is to deny
one's humanity.
At 04:57 PM 6/22/00 -0400, davemarc wrote:
>I'm sure George Orwell, whose 1984 was invoked by Pynchon in Vineland,
>would be disgusted but not surprised to see how his image and term
>"thoughtcrime" have themselves been perverted in a 1984-ish way by the
>likes of CODOH and the Institute for Historical Review, two enterprises
>that are devoted to distorting responsible Holocaust research under the
>guise of "revisionism." Naturally, Ernst Nolte would be viewed as a martyr
>of the cause, along with David Irving and Fred Leuchter.
>
>This is the second time this year that I've seen Orwell invoked by this
>ilk.
>
>d.
>
>PS: The home page for CODOH is festooned with a (Picasso?) lithograph of
>Don Quixote and Sancho Panza. How revolting. How ironic.
>
> > From: KXX4493553 at aol.com
> >
> > Ernst Nolte: always the same old number... Greetings, kwp
> > ThoughtCrime: 06/25/87
> > Ernst Nolte Dismissed
> >
> > Professor Ernst Nolte of the Free University of Berlin, a world-renowned
> > authority on 19th and 20th-century intellectual history, has been
>dismissed
> > from his position as chief editor of Zionist theorist and organizer
>Theodore
> > Herzl's letters and diaries by the Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft, the
>West
> > German group financing the project.
>[snip]
> > Adapted from IHR Newsletter #51 August 1987, Institute for Historical
>
> > Review, PO Box 2739, Newport Beach, CA 92659
> >
> > The THOUGHTCRIMES ARCHIVE is a series designed as a cooperative effort to
>aid
> > and assist the entire community by reporting acts of censorship,
>violence,
> > and other outrages perpetrated against individuals with unpopular or
> > revisionist views. If you know of any such situations or have been a
>victim
> > yourself, please report the details to: codoh at codoh.com.
> >
> > "Thoughtcrime does not entail death: thoughtcrime IS death." George Orwell
- st.
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