"let's save all the children!" (marvin gaye: what's going on)

Lorentzen / Nicklaus lorentzen-nicklaus at t-online.de
Sat Jun 24 03:12:08 CDT 2000


Terrance schrieb:

> but what will all the young women do with Woman
> Studies degrees if they can't pay the rent for a room of
> their own? 


  walk the streets & give interviews for more women studies ... sorry, couldn't 
  resist ... but to this "humanities don't sell" stuff i'm somehow allergic. 
  same same, old old. back in the days, when i made up my mind to study 
  sociology, i heard this 'argument' over and over again. from my father, other 
  relatives, parents of friends & many people who i did not even ask. they all 
  tried to give me the impression that they knew pretty well about the 
  development of labor markets and that they were quite concerned about my fate. 
  they all suggested economics or "a save job at the bank" ... well, these days 
  i'm earning more than enough money, & i'm visiting my university office two   
  times a week. around noon. & all my acquaintances from the old days, who 
  studied such bizarre diciplines as "theaterwissenschaften" or "amerikanistik", 
  have regular well paid jobs now (n=32). if your son wants to do math: fine. if 
  not, let him go his own way! with a little trust in  g o d ... 

kai    

    ps: terrance, this "rational choice"-reasoning is not good for your pneuma!


>Pynchon will survive. I'm convinced of that,  but
> I'm not so sanguine about the prospects for those that teach
> his fiction, Pomo, Mo, Larry or Curly.  Until the humanities
> can demonstrate that it has a positive content that
> contributes to the bottom line, no one is going to take it
> seriously.    
>  
> "The lobster buoy hitch
was particularly good to tie to
> timber," 
>
> 				---Proulx, The Shipping News
>
>
>
> jbor wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >> Still, why label Pynchon a Gnostic?  Defies labels pretty well, wouldn't
>  you
> > >> say?  Although they've still got a noose or two around him like
>  "Post-Modern
> > >> Author" or "Recluse" or whatever.
> > 
> > Actually, that postmodern writer label is his stay of execution imo. It's
> > traditional philosophy which has him coded and compartmentalised on the
> > library catalogue between Barbara Pym and Ayn Rand, and the traditional
> > critics who would have him share the bookstore shelves with Mailer, Updike
> > and Wolfe.
> > 
> > With postmodernism those nooses of nationality and temporality and
> > disciplinarity have begun to unravel. We can talk about Pynchon in the same
> > breath as Rabelais, Cervantes, Sterne and Joyce, or Kant, Nietzsche,
> > Wittgenstein and Jung without getting driven from the campus.
> > 
> > best
> > 
> > ----------
> > >From: Muchasmasgracias at cs.com
> > >To: fqmorris at hotmail.com, pynchon-l at waste.org
> > >Subject: Re: The Gnostic Pynchon
> > >Date: Fri, Jun 23, 2000, 4:11 PM
> > >




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