how to calumniate a foreigner (was: gib nazis keine chance! (was: FIY NP))

[Lorentzen / Nicklaus]

                                        "the one suffering from emotional plague
                                         is not content with a passive          
                                         attitude; he differs from the neurotic 
                                         character by a more or less 
                                         life destroying
                                         s o c i a l   a c t i v i t y ..."
                                        
                                         (wilhelm reich: character analysis)  

discourse cop millison:

> Given Kai's recent onlist defense of Germany's persecution of Jews,  I
> guess I'm not surprised at this comment in response to  my post. It wasn't
> that long ago that he seemed to be  trying to equate U.S. and British
> discrimination against Jews with the Nazi murder of 6 million Jews, a crime
> that seems to have been made possible only by the active participation of
> large segments of German society.  In fact, if I remember correctly, he was
> arguing that U.S. and British attitudes towards Jews were actually worse
> than Germany's.

  
  this is not true. anybody may check out the archives. in my last posting on 
  that issue i spoke so clearly that even a sparrow brain like you must have 
  understood me. in early april i wrote:

  > since this has caused misunderstanding also among more sensitive people, i 
  > may clarify a thing or two. in this paragraph i was explicitly refering to 
  > goldhagen's thesis of an especially evil form of antisemitism which he 
  > thinks 
  > to be seated inside the german people for many centuries. i think this is 
  > bullshit. & i brought some sociological arguments against it. refering to 
  > the 
  > decades  b e f o r e  the holocaust and  b e f o r e  the nürnberger 
  > gesetze. 
  > the frankfurter institut für sozialforschung started to look at the    
  > relation of the racialist politics of the nazis and the degree of 
  > antisemitism among the german population already in the 30s and came to the 
  > conclusion that there is no tight coupling. if goldhagen's thesis would be 
  > true, one would have to find this elimination wish  b e f o r e  1933 in 
  > some 
  > social forms, be that spontaneous pogroms like in russia or a sharply 
  > polarizing state affair (- read proust on it!) like in france or a 
  > significantly higher degree of labor market exclusion like in the 
  > anglo-saxon 
  > countries. but you won't find this in german history. so what about this 
  > catchy thesis?! in a way goldhagen's book - i still can't believe that he 
  > got 
  > a harvard professorship for that - fullfilled an "ideological" function. new 
  > orientation after the decline of the second world. the german reunification 
  > as a cracked mirror of contemporary world history. it's the germans and 
  > their 
  > oh so "very particular" national culture ... for some time this worked as a 
  > consolation for the western functional elites, not knowing (- who does?) how 
  > to deal with all this turn of the millenium problems and their "fascist" 
  > potentials: massive migration, bio-technology & the coming wars in asia.
  > of course i did not compare simple antisemitism to the final solution. 
  
  pretty evil "onlist defense of germany's persecution of jews", eh?! it's you  
  who plays the racialist card ... what will you call me next? a wife-beater?! a 
  child-molester?! anyone for more? ...

  & that son of a mill also wrote: 

  > ... I'll share some of what I've learned about the links between Nazi       
  > ideology and thetheosophicaly-rooted spirituality of the sort that our   
  > German friend so often quotes ...

  it's not enough to buy a book and to look into the introduction ... a hint for 
  free: don't write about things you don't know  a n y t h i n g  about! 
  (- but about what would you write then? hah?!)  

  for your pestilent persecutor mentality i truly despise you!

  it's hard to believe that we two had, even offlist, better days a year ago or 
  so ...

  no justice, no peace.  

                                               kai frederik lorentzen