V.V.(4) "under the rose" (23.24)

Mark David Tristan Brenchley mdtb at st-andrews.ac.uk
Tue Nov 14 12:34:30 CST 2000



On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, David Morris wrote:

 
"He doubted: 
> like a bright hallucination against Cairo's night-sky he saw (it may have 
> been only a line of clouds) a bell-shaped curve, remembered perhaps from 
> some younger F.O. operative's mathematics text. Unlike Constantine on the 
> verge of battle, he could not afford, this late, to be converted at any 
> sign. 
>

 Also of interest (and I'm sorry to keep being a bit vague on the
information but my university library is awful and I don't have the
relevant books with me) with regard to "sub rosa" are the writings of
Umberto Eco. Two novels in particular: "In the Name of the Rose" and
Foucault's Pendulum. The first is about the problem of interpreting signs,
and ends with the librarian desparately trying to make sense of the burnt
remains of the library. The final sentence of the book is:

     STAT ROSA PRISTINA NUDA TENEMUS

The second is the mother of all conspiracy novels. One of the groups
mentioned are
the Rosa Crustians, related to the Knights Templar and the Crusades,
dedicated to carrying out "the plan" (related of course to Kabbalistic
ideas). I mention this because of the Constantine reference (when the
cross appeared to the emperor on the eve of battle saying to conquer in
its
name). The importance of this is that not only does the sign affect
Constantine, it is also has a dramatic effect on the nature of the Cross,
which formerly was seen as a failure (Christ's crucifixion not
being your obvious sort of victory)

I'll check out the references in more detail when I can. Probably all dead
ends, but you never know. 
Mark 



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