suck my dick you fucks!
Lorentzen / Nicklaus
lorentzen-nicklaus at t-online.de
Sat Oct 7 08:40:16 CDT 2000
welcome to the wonderful world of teutonic hermeneutics! we have the nordsee,
we have the schwarzwald, & all the sadist thinkers in between ... tonight
you're in for a special treatment. we want to analyze parts of a single
sentence which was posted to the pynchon-list by mr. maus (- yes, yes, i know,
by not calling him the way his mom does, i qualify as an anti-semite &
holocaust-denier ...). earlier this week mr. maus wrote the following in an
answer to jbor:
> ... it doesn't seem to me
that you're in any more danger of being seriously injured by this claim
that I am by the dipshit yelling "faggot" at me at an Amnesty
International benefit recently.<
the sentence's argument in general, which is quite questionable, goes to say
that one isn't hurt by ongoing calumniations when one uses an email-address
which cannot be traced back at first glance. well, i don't want to waste our
time with discussing that weak thesis. i'm intersted here in the last part of
the sentence, which itself - taken the 'argument' alone - could also have ended
after "claim". but no, it continues - "than i am by the dipshit yelling
'faggot' at me at an amnesty international benefit recently". let's see: what
reason could there be to name the location that terrible 'hate-crime' (- is
this the buzz word?!) took place? it could be a n e c e s s a r y context
information. like in "... than i am by the dipshit yelling 'faggot' at me
in the darkroom while he was kissing my balls, two fingers in my ass". in such
a case "faggot" wouldn't be a hurting insult, sure. or - since mr. maus might
be a fiction writer, which certainly isn't a crime on the p-list - the
location is named to give, by offering us a general image, the sentence a
little more flavor. like for example: "... than i am by the dipshit yelling
'faggot' at me in that greasy supermarket". but, actually, none of these two
possibilities makes much sense. neither does the given context change the
meaning of the words, nor does it - since ai benefits do not belong to the
common knowledge of the profane man - add colours to the picture. so, again,
why did mr. maus not write "... than i am by the dipshit yelling 'faggot' at me
recently" but "... than i am by the dipshit yelling 'faggot' at me recently at
an amnesty international benefit recently"? any ideas?! yes, dougie ... oh
really? ... well, sounds somehow interesting, but you may think a little longer
for yourself before you raise your hand, ja?! ... somebody else? no?! ok, i'll
tell you the answer. (- how i found out? well, get yourself a tarot deck & use
the 3 card hegel method: logik-natur-geist ...). very simple: mr. maus shows
off morally with his supporting of an important ngo. he presents himself to us
as a good human being. supposedly he does so because he feels the need to
legitimize the way he leans out of the window. since his contribution to the
grgr was next to nothing (- lurking is allright, but the semi-lurking of mr.
maus is a pain in the ass), that maneuver is somehow understandable, though
nevertheless, to say the least, tasteless. [- our guests may leave my
houseboat now; next week i'm gonna teach you about "das unaussprechliche", a
fragmentary gedankendichtung heidegger & luhmann collaborated on in the early
70s ... p-listers are asked to stay.] the text on the screen is the text
on the screen. and: good moral ways do not become better by talking about them.
rather it's the other way round ... in any case you shouldn't try to make your
voice louder in the p-context by clapping your own shoulder for political work
you - like most of us middle class academics - now and then do (- i hope your
soup for dinner wasn't too hot ...), be that antifa, antinuke or human rights
work (actually - how i hate you moral majority beehive prisoners for making me
say so! - i've done all of these). back to the future: what you, like some
others (- there's a flaherty sample in my ear: "why focus on apparent
weaknesses in doug's argumentation?"), really do not get is that it makes a
difference whether somebody is called "asshole" (- also "sparrow-brain") or
"holocaust-denier" (- also "child molester"). these last mentioned insults are
highly caluminating & - since something a l w a y s sticks to the one it was
thrown at - enforce excluding processes on the p-list. if foreigners on this
v e r y us-american list are the victims of those caluminations, things, of
course, get even worse. samurai ethics doesn't help. good manners do not help.
even praying doesn't. the only thing - hey rich! hey keith! hey jeremy! hey
michael! - that helps is to tell that fucking son of a mill onlist to s t o p
all that pseudo-moralist bullshit (- for the largest part: his filthy-minded
holoporn projections). i'm so sick of it !!! true, i'm doing this p-list stuff
in the first place for myself & my current collage-book project, but if there
weren't a handful of people out there who really do appreciate the stuff i'm
pushing, i probably would have already moved on. it's painful having to put on
the armor every time things start to become a little more interesting: my skin
has turned far too scarred ... to be just, i want to add that there are,
besides jbor & myself, some people who speak out clearly against the discourse
police: paul mackin, david morris & henry m. come to my mind. (- & you whose
posting i unfortunately do not remember this very moment: thanks you care!).
hey you other people out there: does this list bear trp's name or is it,
actually, the tipper gore chatroom?!
kfl //:: ps: yes, mausi, i know: you've been on this list "many years" longer
than i have. & mein sandhäufchen ist größer als deins ... aren't you the guy
who is so proud of himself for beeing oh so grown up?! btw, i seriously doubt
that "maus" was used very often as an anti-semitic insult. "rats" & certain
insect names (- "zecke", tick, is the favourite of nowadays neo-nazis), yes.
but "maus"? in german culture the differences made between mice & rats are
enourmous. mice are, even when one is afraid of them, considered to be sweet,
whilst rats are labeled as carriers of dangerous diseases. also concerning the
concrete sound "maus!" (- pronounced nearly the same way as the english
"mouse") doesn't work too well as an insult. try saying furiously "du maus!" or
"ihr verdammten mäuse!". it sounds either tender (- actually "maus" and its
derivatives like "mäuschen", "mäuserich", "mauselinchen" or "mäusilein" are
mostly used among lovers or towards children. passing the playground you hear
mothers sing: "so, ihr mäuse, jetzt wollen wir nach hause. packt mal eure
sachen zusammen!") or - especially if used as an insult try - silly. so please
look once more into your history book and tell me: where and when were jews
called "maus!" by the nazis? a-and: be careful with suggesting that people are
using anti-semitic rhetorics! you know, emotional plague is contagious ...
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