suck my dick you fucks!

Lorentzen / Nicklaus lorentzen-nicklaus at t-online.de
Sat Oct 7 08:40:16 CDT 2000


 
 welcome to the wonderful world of teutonic hermeneutics! we have the nordsee, 
 we have the schwarzwald, & all the sadist thinkers in between ... tonight 
 you're in for a special treatment. we want to analyze parts of a single 
 sentence which was posted to the pynchon-list by mr. maus (- yes, yes, i know, 
 by not calling him the way his mom does, i qualify as an anti-semite & 
 holocaust-denier ...). earlier this week mr. maus wrote the following in an  
 answer to jbor: 

      > ... it doesn't seem to me
       that you're in any more danger of being seriously injured by this claim
       that I am by the dipshit yelling "faggot" at me at an Amnesty
       International benefit recently.< 

 the sentence's argument in general, which is quite questionable, goes to say 
 that one isn't hurt by ongoing calumniations when one uses an email-address   
 which cannot be traced back at first glance. well, i don't want to waste our  
 time with discussing that weak thesis. i'm intersted here in the last part of  
 the sentence, which itself - taken the 'argument' alone - could also have ended 
 after "claim". but no, it continues - "than i am by the dipshit yelling  
 'faggot' at me at an amnesty international benefit recently". let's see: what 
 reason could there be to name the location that terrible 'hate-crime' (- is 
 this the buzz word?!) took place? it could be a  n e c e s s a r y  context 
 information. like in "... than i am by the dipshit yelling 'faggot' at me 
 in the darkroom while he was kissing my balls, two fingers in my ass". in such 
 a case "faggot" wouldn't be a hurting insult, sure. or - since mr. maus might 
 be a fiction writer, which certainly isn't a crime on the p-list - the  
 location is named to give, by offering us a general image, the sentence a 
 little more flavor. like for example: "... than i am by the dipshit yelling 
 'faggot' at me in that greasy supermarket". but, actually, none of these two  
 possibilities makes much sense. neither does the given context change the 
 meaning of the words, nor does it - since ai benefits do not belong to the 
 common knowledge of the profane man - add colours to the picture. so, again, 
 why did mr. maus not write "... than i am by the dipshit yelling 'faggot' at me 
 recently" but "... than i am by the dipshit yelling 'faggot' at me recently at 
 an amnesty international benefit recently"? any ideas?! yes, dougie ... oh 
 really? ... well, sounds somehow interesting, but you may think a little longer 
 for yourself before you raise your hand, ja?! ... somebody else? no?! ok, i'll 
 tell you the answer. (- how i found out? well, get yourself a tarot deck & use 
 the 3 card hegel method: logik-natur-geist ...). very simple: mr. maus shows 
 off morally with his supporting of an important ngo. he presents himself to us 
 as a good human being. supposedly he does so because he feels the need to 
 legitimize the way he leans out of the window. since his contribution to the  
 grgr was next to nothing (- lurking is allright, but the semi-lurking of mr.   
 maus is a pain in the ass), that maneuver is somehow understandable, though 
 nevertheless, to say the least, tasteless. [- our guests may leave my 
 houseboat now; next week i'm gonna teach you about "das unaussprechliche", a 
 fragmentary gedankendichtung heidegger & luhmann collaborated on in the early 
 70s ... p-listers are asked to stay.] the text on the screen is the text 
 on the screen. and: good moral ways do not become better by talking about them. 
 rather it's the other way round ... in any case you shouldn't try to make your 
 voice louder in the p-context by clapping your own shoulder for political work 
 you - like most of us middle class academics - now and then do (- i hope your 
 soup for dinner wasn't too hot ...), be that antifa, antinuke or human rights 
 work (actually - how i hate you moral majority beehive prisoners for making me 
 say so! - i've done all of these). back to the future: what you, like some 
 others (- there's a flaherty sample in my ear: "why focus on apparent 
 weaknesses in doug's argumentation?"), really do not get is that it makes a  
 difference whether somebody is called "asshole" (- also "sparrow-brain") or 
 "holocaust-denier" (- also "child molester"). these last mentioned insults are 
 highly caluminating & - since something  a l w a y s  sticks to the one it was 
 thrown at - enforce excluding processes on the p-list. if foreigners on this 
 v e r y  us-american list are the victims of those caluminations, things, of 
 course, get even worse. samurai ethics doesn't help. good manners do not help. 
 even praying doesn't. the only thing - hey rich! hey keith! hey jeremy! hey  
 michael! - that helps is to tell that fucking son of a mill onlist to  s t o p 
 all that pseudo-moralist bullshit (- for the largest part: his filthy-minded   
 holoporn projections). i'm so sick of it !!! true, i'm doing this p-list stuff 
 in the first place for myself & my current collage-book project, but if there  
 weren't a handful of people out there who really do appreciate the stuff i'm   
 pushing, i probably would have already moved on. it's painful having to put on 
 the armor every time things start to become a little more interesting: my skin 
 has turned far too scarred ... to be just, i want to add that there are,    
 besides jbor & myself, some people who speak out clearly against the discourse 
 police: paul mackin, david morris & henry m. come to my mind. (- & you whose  
 posting i unfortunately do not remember this very moment: thanks you care!). 

 hey you other people out there: does this list bear trp's name or is it, 
 actually, the tipper gore chatroom?!

 kfl //:: ps: yes, mausi, i know: you've been on this list "many years" longer 
 than i have. & mein sandhäufchen ist größer als deins ... aren't you the guy 
 who is so proud of himself for beeing oh so grown up?! btw, i seriously doubt 
 that  "maus" was used very often as an anti-semitic insult. "rats" & certain 
 insect  names (- "zecke", tick, is the favourite of nowadays neo-nazis), yes. 
 but "maus"? in german culture the differences made between mice & rats are  
 enourmous. mice are, even when one is afraid of them, considered to be sweet,  
 whilst rats are labeled as carriers of dangerous diseases. also concerning the 
 concrete sound "maus!" (- pronounced nearly the same way as the english  
"mouse") doesn't work too well as an insult. try saying furiously "du maus!" or 
 "ihr verdammten mäuse!". it sounds either tender (- actually "maus" and its   
 derivatives like "mäuschen", "mäuserich", "mauselinchen" or "mäusilein" are 
 mostly used among lovers or towards children. passing the playground you hear 
 mothers sing: "so, ihr mäuse, jetzt wollen wir nach hause. packt mal eure 
 sachen zusammen!") or - especially if used as an insult try - silly. so please 
 look once more into your history book and tell me: where and when were jews 
 called "maus!" by the nazis? a-and: be careful with suggesting that people are 
 using anti-semitic rhetorics! you know, emotional plague is contagious ...     
                       




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