Liberation? (was Re: Cutting ... )

Otto Sell o.sell at telda.net
Wed Sep 6 13:22:32 CDT 2000


Has Jean Genet "Notre-Dame-des-fleurs" from 1942 ever been discussed in
this context? It was written in prison while the German Luftwaffe was
bombing Paris and begins (easy to find) with the words:
"Weidmann, den Kopf in schmale weiße Bänder gehüllt, als Nonne und als
verletzter, zwischen Roggenähren gestürzter Flieger..."

>From the liner notes:
"Eine Welt verkehrt sich. Schmutz wird Gold. Leben verwest zu Träumen. Und
aus den Träumen bleiben Apercus, Kristallisationen der Sprache, rationale
Metaphern, Paradoxa, Fleurs du Mal aus Filigran . . ."

"A world turns upside down. Filth becomes gold. Life putrefies to dreams."
(Karl-Heinz Kramberg, Rowohlt, Reinbek 1975)

Guess I'll give it a second reading.

Otto
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----- Original Message -----
From: J L <trailerman44 at hotmail.com>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:44 AM
Subject: Liberation? (was Re: Cutting ... )


> butting in, here --
>
> terrance asked :
> >Why do the Dora homosexuals experience their freedom as
> >banishment rather than liberation?
>
> Maybe 'it's when closest to Death that one feels most Alive'; also for
these
> folks internment may have been the first time that Loneliness was not a
> problem.
>
> The cosiness of the collective (para)military group, and
> the effect of expulsion/withdrawal on the individual, is
> a regular motif in Pynchon; and I'd include the Camp Experience in this.
>
> Some characters seem to find Enlightenment when alone.  Others struggle
with
> life on the Outside and try to rediscover or recreate the comforts in a
new
> gang.
> That Counterforce is so sad.
>
> JL
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> okay, so you're a rocket scientist.
> that don't impress me much.          [ - shania twain ]
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