Liberation? (was Re: Cutting ... )

[Dave Monroe]

My intuition is that Jean Genet's Funeral Rites might be worth a look as well,
but ...

Otto Sell wrote:

> Has Jean Genet "Notre-Dame-des-fleurs" from 1942 ever been discussed in
> this context? It was written in prison while the German Luftwaffe was
> bombing Paris and begins (easy to find) with the words:
> "Weidmann, den Kopf in schmale weiße Bänder gehüllt, als Nonne und als
> verletzter, zwischen Roggenähren gestürzter Flieger..."
>
> >From the liner notes:
> "Eine Welt verkehrt sich. Schmutz wird Gold. Leben verwest zu Träumen. Und
> aus den Träumen bleiben Apercus, Kristallisationen der Sprache, rationale
> Metaphern, Paradoxa, Fleurs du Mal aus Filigran . . ."
>
> "A world turns upside down. Filth becomes gold. Life putrefies to dreams."
> (Karl-Heinz Kramberg, Rowohlt, Reinbek 1975)
>
> Guess I'll give it a second reading.
>
> Otto
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: J L <trailerman44 at hotmail.com>
> To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 8:44 AM
> Subject: Liberation? (was Re: Cutting ... )
>
> > butting in, here --
> >
> > terrance asked :
> > >Why do the Dora homosexuals experience their freedom as
> > >banishment rather than liberation?
> >
> > Maybe 'it's when closest to Death that one feels most Alive'; also for
> these
> > folks internment may have been the first time that Loneliness was not a
> > problem.
> >
> > The cosiness of the collective (para)military group, and
> > the effect of expulsion/withdrawal on the individual, is
> > a regular motif in Pynchon; and I'd include the Camp Experience in this.
> >
> > Some characters seem to find Enlightenment when alone.  Others struggle
> with
> > life on the Outside and try to rediscover or recreate the comforts in a
> new
> > gang.
> > That Counterforce is so sad.
> >
> > JL
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> > okay, so you're a rocket scientist.
> > that don't impress me much.          [ - shania twain ]
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