1.Weissmann/Blicero & Rilke

[Terrance]

Ah pauvre humanite!  If only Humanity had remained as the
angels, as the Deity originally created Him them, male and
female created He them, of course such poems that Mr. Rilke
wrote and such novels that Mr. Pynchon writes, nay such
thoughts could never have been conceived---But as Humanity
is now, the ideas of Mr. Pynchon must be discovered in the
irony with which he characterizes Modern Mortals and the
secular-scientific-sadomasochistic Postmodern nightmare they
endeavor to negotiate in his fiction. 

175s want to be in prison, to be abused, so do children,
that's GR. 

I have alas! quite given up all thoughts of discussing this
novel here.  

Otto: 

Yes, the ABSOLUTE extreme in GR is not sex with and murder
of a slave boy or Sara or the murder of some percentage of 6
million,
 it is Sodomy and Rocket sacrifice of
Gottfried&dobles/Enzian/Weissmann/Blicero--what he "Loved"
the WORD against the Earth. It's too bad jbor can't make an
argument for his humanity. We must insist in Weissmann's
humanity, TRP does not condemn him as an evil human, anymore
than he is out to get revenge or set things straight, he is
our Miltonic Satan, our very own Heart of Darkness and we
cannot escape him anymore than he can escape. 

But he will try, and unfortunately, we humans are working at
it too. 

He will undo it, white sperm flows into black shit, escape
the cycle of Earth, once, if only once. 

Erde, ist es nicht dies, was du willst: unichtbar in uns
erstehn?--Ist Traum nicht, einmal unsichtbar zu sein? O
Earth: invisible! What, if not transformation, is your
urgent command? 

...one of them, ah even one...and your intimate companion,
Death. 

Blicero/Weissmann, his intimate companion is of course V,
yes jbor I know, she's not in this one, Greta, and adds ONLY
ONE, THE ABSOLUTE SINGULARITY, ONCE, WHITE SPERM FLOWS
INTO BLACK SHIT and escapes, once only.

Now beat those banished words into moral mashed potatoes and
swords to persecute
those christians, those evil christians and their lies about
good and evil and Marvy that evil American.  No, that sounds
like bigotry to me. Look up "persecution" in that Collin's
dictionary, say anything about persecution of people for
their religious beliefs?