(was GRGR: homosexuality in GR)

Can't Wait yayforgod at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 6 20:44:01 CDT 2000


The Journalist pointed out, on and on...:

'But, wait a 
minute, I thought Pynchon's beliefs and attitudes don't count for 
anything when you guys read his work.  So, rj, why the appeal to 
Pynchon's personal lack of bigotry or sense of social justice? Isn't 
the author irrelevant to your reading of the text? Or, might you also

yield, occasionally, to the temptation to use the author to 
strengthen your particular interpretation of his work?' 

The author doesn't mean nothin, of course not, and you are quite
right to mention as much, but if you got the jbor in a contradiction,
which I think you phrased quite well, then Mister Macho Down Under
has got some explainin to do.

But surely though, surely the Journalist has misrepresented something
along the way here, misunderstood what the jbor is on about? --The
jbor will appeal that he has Not appealed to 'Pynchon's personal lack
of bigotry' but....


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--- Doug Millison <millison at online-journalist.com> wrote:
> As far as I can tell, and I have read the posts in this thread
> rather 
> carefully, Terrance is merely pointing out some of the
> juxtapositions 
> that Pynchon has made between homosexuality and other 
> issues/themes/motifs in GR -- Blicero/Weissmann is quite the nexus,
> 
> after all, for starters.  Calling Terrance a bigot for noting  this
> 
> is Pynchon's book absurd. If you can't stand the heat...hey, blame
> it 
> on TRP.  We recently had somebody -- I think he said he was gay -- 
> write a post that called objectionable many of the ways that
> Pynchon 
> has characterized homosexuality in GR, and that wasn't the first
> time 
> I've heard those accusations made against Pynchon.  (Unfortunately,
> 
> this is not the first time that rj has made these kinds of 
> accusations against Terrance, either -- he tried to tar Jody and 
> Terrance with this or a similar brush not that long ago.) I've made
> 
> it clear in previous posts that I think GR, and the rest of
> Pynchon's 
> novels, exhibit the politics and social values of a 60s-era, 
> anti-fascist, rebel (very roughly speaking, Pynchon's politics are 
> far more nuanced than this crude characterization).  Pynchon is 
> certainly not a bigot, in race or sexual matters.  But, wait a 
> minute, I thought Pynchon's beliefs and attitudes don't count for 
> anything when you guys read his work.  So, rj, why the appeal to 
> Pynchon's personal lack of bigotry or sense of social justice?
> Isn't 
> the author irrelevant to your reading of the text? Or, might you
> also 
> yield, occasionally, to the temptation to use the author to 
> strengthen your particular interpretation of his work? Not that I'd
> 
> put your feet to the fire for doing so, a foolish consistency
> being, 
> after all, the hobgoblin of small minds, or however that Emerson 
> quote goes.
> 
> Pre-emptive note to Morris, kfl, Mackin, and Malign:  I understand 
> that you think this kind of "list nanny" behavior is not to be 
> tolerated, and I could care less.  Your labeling me so puts you in 
> the category you pretend to despise.
> 
> -- 
> 
> d  o  u  g    m  i  l  l  i  s  o  n 
<http://www.online-journalist.com>


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