Seneca 1
calbert at hslboxmaster.com
calbert at hslboxmaster.com
Mon Aug 13 21:25:43 CDT 2001
But, Calbert, weve now endured your unconvincing amateur
musings on Eliot, not to mention that dreadful homophonic pun
on quay and likely, homophobic, on Greek armadas..........and
now we are about to be assaulted by Seneca for Dolts, and he
was a Roman, anyway......
Indulge me for just a minute......
>From Seneca - The Tragedies Vol I, David Slavitt & Palmer
Bovie Editors
The Senecan strategy is not merely an artistic but a philosophic
one, the commentary of a man of intimate knowledge of the
imperial experience about the ways in which we may withstand
lifes outrages and disasters. What T. S. Eliot alluded to in his
slightly prissy was, in his essay of 1927 on Seneca in
Elizabethan Translation, was the influence of Seneca upon the
thought of the Elizabethans, or more exactly, upon their
attitude toward life so far as it can be formulated in words. He
went on to elaborate his meaning, suggesting that Senecas
influence upon dramatic form, upon versification and language
(apparently Ss plays were not amenable to the existing
fourteener structure of dramatic dialogue, and Kyd applied
free verse to the problem, cfa) , upon sensibility, and upon
thought, must in the end be all estimated together. And he
arrived, finally at an elegant formulation in which he asserted
grandly and simply that when an Elizabethan hero or villain dies
(and the form not only allows for such, but for the most part,
demands the demise often of both pro and antago - nist, cfa) he
usually dies in the odor of Seneca.......
There are two questions that the tragedies of Seneca generally
pose, often but not always explicitly. They ask, first, whether
there is any divine justice. Are there any gods, or more
particularly, does their mere existence matter to us if they do not
occupy themselves with rewarding virtue and punishing
wickedness? And then, as a corollary question, Senecas plays
test our assumptions about the limits of the cruelty men and
women can visit upon one another. Or worse, he asks whether
there are any such limits.
Once these two questions have been posed and answered
resoundingly in the negative, the curtain comes down (or actually
in a Roman theater, goes up).....
Intro. pgs viii-ix
Bear in mind that Seneca had a front seat at an apocalypse -
serving as tutor to both Caligula and Nero, and having a
presence at the court of Claudius. He dodged several death
sentences only to wind up killing himself.
There is a clear connection between the imagery of Eliot and
Seneca, as illustrated by the following lines from TROADES -
Trojan Women.....
Hecuba (Widow of Priam):
Whoever believes in wealth, power, the state,
those fragile toys of mans contrivance, whoever
puts his trust in such things and does not fear
the whimsical gods, let him look upon me,
and this, behind me - all that remains of Troy.....
...........We believed ourselves to be safe.
Nothing is safe or sure but ruin itself.....
In houses where men and women laughed and whispered,
there are only TONGUES OF FLAME still jeering now....
and later
only the dead and utterly mad
are safe from these assaults
Blood cries out for blood - the wounds
of Hectors body are all mouths
calling for a mothers care,
the blood demanding repayment in blood.
Later Agamemnon:
Do the ruins of Troy make you happy? Strong?
Invincible? A creature of destiny. Think
how weak and paltry a thing is man, and quake
that grandeur, wealth, and strength can be overthrown
and turned to the sorry rubble we behold.
I have been guilty of pride, but I was wrong.
Let us learn from Priam the difficult lesson,
that crowns can topple, and skulls beneath are fragile
as those of any men. Ten years, ten seconds,
a thousand ships, or none, and what we believed
to be real, solid, evaporates, is smoke
in the acrid air......
You ask
for another innocent victim, a grisly rite
where murder masquerades as a kind of marriage...
The action of Trojan Women concerns itself with the aftermath
of the Greek victory at Troy....The Greek fleet is unable to head
for home due to a lack of favorable winds, and are stuck in the
harbor of the burning city.....A priest is consulted, who explains
that the gods want a sacrifice of an innocent - no, wait, make
that TWO innocents, in order to blow good breeze. The
innocents chosen are Polyxena (explained as a mute part), the
daughter of Hecuba and Priam, and just coincidentally, the
recently desenheredadoed Astayanax, son of Andromache and
Hector.....WHen Ulysses is sent to fetch the boy from his
mother, Andromache, cleverly, determines to hide the whelp
(rather brilliantly, in Hectors tomb) and claim him
dead.....Ulysses, being no dope, smells the rat, and profanes the
dead mans tomb.....which instigates the following response from
the Mom:
AN amazon
or mad Maenad, Ill tear your eyes out with my nails!
Now, those who have been reading carefully will recognize
Maenad from this:
Out in a bloody rain to feed our fields
Amid the Maenad roar of nitres song
and Sulfurs cantus firmus
Couriers Tragedy
This is the speech of Pasquale referring to the effort to atomize
the good prince over the Faggian landscape....
Note: Maenads are the priests of Bacchus
Nitre and sulfur are components of gun powder
Cantus Firmus - the melody which remains firm to its original
shape while the parts abound it are varying with counterpoint.
Simple unadorned melody of ancient hymns, plain song......
(now, MalignD.....youve gotta admit, this is pretty funny)
and we have only just begun......
love,
cfa
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