Boycott was Re: Karma my ass!

[Simon Bryquer]

What I really don't understand is why anyone even bothers to reply to
Mr.Millison & Barbara.  Control yourselves and don't react, just simply
ignore them and get back to P-list and Pynchon. Simply a complete moratorium
of Millison and Barbara not matter what they post.

Ignoring them does amount to dismissing them. Let's see what happens when no
one pays any attention to them and stops feeding their pathological craving
for attention.

SCB


----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Wise" <philwise at paradise.net.nz>
To: "Paul Mackin" <paul.mackin at verizon.net>; <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: Karma my ass!


Same kiddie impulse that leads grownups (some many times over) into periodic
rounds of baiting and name calling, perhaps?

phil

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Mackin" <paul.mackin at verizon.net>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: Karma my ass!


> My question is how can grownups (which all p-listers are and some many
times
> over) can treat this Dougian karma doodoo with such seriousness.
>
>         P.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <KXX4493553 at aol.com>
> To: <quail at libyrinth.com>; <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 3:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Karma my ass!
>
>
> > In einer eMail vom 01.12.01 19:58:40 (MEZ) Mitteleuropäische Zeit
schreibt
> > quail at libyrinth.com:
> >
> > >
> > >  >America must have an enormous karmic debt to pay. Let's just pay it
> and
> > >  >learn our lessons.
> > >
> > >  >I'm not the pervert who linked "karmic" and "debt" together.
> > >  >Actually, I stole it from Gary Zukav. I think they go together well.
> > >  >And I stand behind my statement.  Sorry if you find it insensitive,
> > >  >but I believe America does have a karmic debt to pay.
> > >
> > >  I was actually hoping you would just sort of quietly disown that
> > >  statement, which I find the single most offensive thing stated on the
> > >  P-List since September 11. The very fact that you would use a
> > >  religious/philosophical concept pulled from Buddhism to *justify* the
> > >  death of thousands of multinational non-combatants is appalling to me
> > >  in the extreme. And lets not mince words -- you *are* justifying it.
> >
> > I agree with "Quail" in this point. I can remember that some years ago a
> > German "buddhist" was speculating in tv that the Holocaust was the
result
> of
> > the "karmic debt of the Jews". This is complete bullshit, and I as a
> > "leftist" in your eyes (I see big differences in the attitude towards
> > "leftism" in the American and in the European public) would never accept
> such
> > a thinking in "left" groups here.
> > BTW, the "peace movement" here isn't much a left thing. It's much more
> > ideologically diffuse and influenced by several political directions.
> >
> > But: mistrust your government whereever you hear their political
> statements!
> > The same with the official media. Just read an interview with a former
> > secretary of state during the Helmut Schmidt government here, in the
> > seventies and the early eighties, a social democrat. He mistrusts the
> > official versions of 9/11 until today. Too many open questions are still
> > unanswered. But the main question is: do we need "super powers" any
> longer?
> > It doesn't matter for me if this "super power" is called USA, Russia,
> China
> > or whatever. And I must laugh about my government: in a newspaper (taz)
> which
> > has a lot of sympathies with the German Green Party I had to read today
> that
> > it would be good if German peace-keeping troops were sent to Afghanistan
> > because the Afghans traditionally have "good relations" to the Germans
and
> > the Germans would have no interests in Central Asia! Harhar! A good
joke!
> > This newspaper - the taz - was formerly - let's say fifteen years ago -
> the
> > most well-known left-radical newspaper in Germany. Formerly they made
> > campaigns like "weapons for El Salvador" to support the Guerilla there,
> and
> > now they want to make Joschka Fischer to an "elder statesman" and peace
> > angle.
> > This world is only a bitter and a bad joke.
> >
> > Kurt-Werner Pörtner
> >
> >
>
>