Mishakes & Chomsky/Foucault and whatever....

[Dave Monroe]

Without wanting to detour yet again into Gravity's
Rainbow (must ... read ... Mason & Dixon ...) this is
one of the more interesting, intriguing even, posts
I've seen here since MalignD's hypothesis concerning
the ultimate Impolexization of Tyrone Slothrop ...

http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0104&msg=54838&sort=date

--- Terrance <lycidas2 at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> [Fopucault's] Method is clearly Agonistic.  This is
> one of the reasons [...] he has been compared with
> Nietzsche.  Rabinow notes that F's basic metaphor is
> one of battle and not conversation. We could say,
> Agonsitic and not Dialectic. Rabinow also claims
> that F is "resolutely and consistently anti-Hegelian
> and anti-Marxist" in the area of history, that is, F
> rejects a general and dialectical theory of history.
> This is partly because F, like Pynchon, who
satirizes
> dialecticians in GR--Marx, Brown, Hegel, Plato, 
> sees and seeks no way out (see Norman O. Brown
> another Dialectician who seeks a way out of
> Freud's Agon--eros and thanatos). And for both
> Pynchon and F, seeking a way out is the greatest
> danger.

Again, my impression is, in GR, TRP had second
thoughts about NOB's polymorphous perversity along the
lines of, say, H(erbert)M(arcuse's) own apparent
reconsideration (albeit, here, not quite repudiation)
of his similar, earlier wretched excesses (i.e.,
Mindless Pleasures? ).  See that "Political Preface"
to the 1966 2nd ed. of Eros and Civilization ...

http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0008&msg=48845&sort=date
 
> Also of interest here, Chomsky, like McLuhen,
> Norbert Wiener may be considered Luddites, but all
> three seek a way out through technological means,
> faulting political institutions and THEM. F does
> not, as Rabinow puts it, attribute the practices of
> objectification to the orchestration of "some
> unseen actor." We could say, here I would disagree
> again with Thomas Moore's wonderful study of the
> scientific influences in GR, that P brought these
> texts into his texts even if he never bought into
> them, Or, even if he did, his fiction does not.

Which reminds me, on the gothicism of, say, power, or
ideology, as "unseen actors," see ...

Edmundson, Mark.  Nightmare on Main Street:
   Angels, Sadomasochism and the Culture of Gothic.
   Cambridge, MA: Harvard UP, 1997.

http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/EDMNIG.html

Okay, finally catching up on the List here.  Now to
get on with the novel ...




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