Re Ketjap pizza [Was: Re[2]: MDDM Ch. 23 Summary, Notes]
Mark Wright AIA
mwaia at yahoo.com
Thu Dec 13 09:12:42 CST 2001
Howdy
I don't dispute that this is a recipe for ketjap. P's pizza jest relies
on the clear phonetic connection with the modern tomato-based
condiment. The earlier joke "Slap her on the seat and maybe she'll
behave" (or words to that effect) picks up on the universal, and
universally ineffectual, habit of the late-20th-century American
epicure of whacking ketchup bottles on the bottom to get the stuff to
come out.
Granting your recipe for an 'historical ketjap' and considering the
possible yummy goodness of the actual pizza described (sugar sauce,
anchovies, stilton blue cheese)--- tastes will vary, and I like
anchovies as much as the next guy, but I'll quote Calvin and leave it
at this:
"I say it's spinach, and I say the hell with it."
Mark
--- David Morris <fqmorris at hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.recipesource.com/ethnic/asia/indonesian/00/rec0061.html
>
> Title: Ketjap Manis (Debaat)
> Categories: Indonesian, Condiment, Ceideburg 2
> Yield: 1 servings
>
> 2 c Sugar, brown, dark
> 2 c Water
> 1 1/2 c Soy sauce, light
> 3/4 c Molasses, dark
> 1/2 ts Galangal, ground
> 1/2 ts Cilantro, ground
> 1/2 ts Pepper, black
>
> Sure...Kecap (or, more commonly, "ketjap") refers to a number of
> sauces from Indonesia; the most common is ketjap manis, which is
> the
> Indonesian kind of soy sauce, and is rather sweeter than Chinese
> soy
> sauce or Japanese shoji or tamari. (It's pronounced "ketchup",
> btw.)
>
>
> >From: Michael Baum <michael.baum at nist.gov>
> >I must have missed the debate? I thought "ketjap" was just a generic
> >term for table sauce, which _could_ be tomato-based, but certainly
> >ketjap manis is more a soy sauce kind of sauce.
>
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