Religion

Cat Hamilton cat_hamilton at hotmail.com
Fri Feb 2 17:54:46 CST 2001


I think it's Erma Bombeck who says "90% of life is just showing up".

--Cat

>From: "ng ld" <ngld40 at hotmail.com>
>To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>Subject: Re: Religion
>Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 23:08:49 -0000
>
>
>>"If Jesus Christ returned today and saw what was being done in his name,
>>he would never stop throwing up."  --Woody Allen ("Hannah and Her
>>Sisters" -- speaking of which, Max von Sydow speaks another great line
>>in that movie, approximately: "The mystery of the holocaust is not why
>>it happened, but given what we know about human nature why it doesn't
>>happen more often.")
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>Woody Allen also says, 90% of life is just showing up.
>
>>
>>But seriously, I mentioned Christianity because that was the topic. And
>>I did acknowledge that religion offers comfort, just as a "good" company
>>offers its employees "benefits."
>
>Yes, and again you demonstrate that you have a good Firm grasp of
>religion.
>
>>
>>What is the city of god, or the New Jerusalem but a fascistic vision of
>>purity, or an idealized corporate power chart?
>
>Right, now I get it.
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>>What, here on earth, is Vatican City?
>
>Ford motor company in Italy or IBM?
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>Nothing wrong with purity, of course -- Hitler was a great
>>hygiene and anti-smoking crusader among his other campaigns against
>>blackness.
>
>Hitler?
>
>But as William Slothrop wrote (page 555), it is black Judas
>>that saves the preterite.
>
>Black Judas? No, William Slothrop did not write on Black
>Judas, he wrote "On Preterition", wherein he argued
>("feelings of action and reaction being in the air"), that
>Everything in the Creation has an equal and opposite
>counterpart, so that if Jesus was for the elect (an important qualification
>here Eric, and I'm happy to disabuse you
>of this misreading of P's texts, is that William is not a
>christian as you are applying the term here--a generalization)
>Judas Iscariot was for the Preterite. He says, we have to
>love Judas too. Where did William get this idea? Didn't
>he get this idea in part by looking at the pigs and READING
>what happened to them as a Parable?
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>>
>>Tyrone, thinking of his ancestor (page 556), in another Zone where
>>choices will be made, muses on America following Judas instead, thinks
>>there might have been more kindness done in The Dark One's name and not
>>so much evil done in The Anointed One's name.
>
>Tyrone thinks, not Pynchon. It's a route back and therefore
>disqualified. Not only is it a way back (a gnostic path)
>it is a way that could have been in the begining or at the
>fork in the road of the past or can be
>after the destruction of..., that's why it's Tyrone's musing
>and not TRP's.
>
>Thanks for the context, the page numbers, it helps me to
>get where you are coming from.
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