pynchon-l-digest V2 #1936
Doug Millison
millison at online-journalist.com
Sun Jul 15 22:57:35 CDT 2001
And another anonymous crank-- "David Morris" -- speaks up to defend
"jbor", what a surprise! Where's "slothrop666 at yahoo.com", then we'll
have heard from all three of the ThreeStooges at yahoo.com.
"David Morris"
>Derek called jbor anti-Semitic.
That's right. And rightly so.
> Derek was wrong, and many called him thus.
That's a lie. And I don't know what "many" might mean here, unless
"David Morris" refers to the multiple pseudonyms that spew this kind
of lying bs here whenever I disagree with "rjackson/rj/jbor" or
recall the truth of whatever it is that "jbor" is currently lying
about.
There was NO outcry against Derek Maus, a respected and long-time
subscriber to Pynchon-L, when Derek called "jbor" on his/her
anti-Semitic attack. (I believe it is safe to say that NOBODY posted
anything that criticized Derek for protesting against "jbor's"
anti-Semitic slur. If I'm wrong, perhaps "David Morris" can show me
the posts to support the claim that "many" criticized Derek for
speaking out as he did.) Instead, there was a lot of offlist
discussion about just how low "rj/rjackson/jbor" might eventually
sink, having witnessed the anonymous duo "jbor" and "David Morris"
hound Hollander from this forum, then later team up to attack
Terrance. And, at least one other person, who continues to post on
Pynchon-L, picked up the "maus" epithet and flung it at Derek, see:
http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0010&msg=264&sort=date
http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0010&msg=263&sort=date
"David Morris"
>But then your standards are different than mine.
What standards would those be? Aside from a propensity to kiss
"jbor's" butt and attack people who disagree with "jbor", "David
Morris" hasn't exhibited any "standards" unless she refers to her
routine resort to the type of insult that her @yahoo.com buddy "mike
j" treated us to a while ago.
Here's the post where Derek called "jbor" on "jbor's" anti-Semitic
slur, for the doubting Thomases out there who won't believe what I
say:
http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0010&msg=213&keywords=Maus
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 18:27:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Derek C. Maus" <dmaus@[omitted]>
To: Pynchon List <pynchon-l@[omitted]>
Subject: Re: The apocheir critic
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, jbor wrote:
> And maus lumping me in the same boat...(snip)
> But I can see by his upcoming post that hypocrite maus's *only* real
> purpose and context in ever corresponding to the list is injecting
> venom and trading personal insults as well, which, in my book, is
> attention-seeking behaviour at its most juvenile.
First of all, asshole, my name is Derek, not "maus" (which is, as you no
doubt know, not only my last name but an insulting hurled toward Jews in
Germany, you little sweetie you...). If you wish to hide your little-frog
self behind your bigpond.com alias, that's fine with me, but I have a
name and I'd appreciate it if you use it when you refer to me.
[snip the rest of the post]
...It's worth noting that Derek entered this particular discussion
thread trying to get rj and me to stop the pissing match about the
Holocaust and GR. I backed away from that discussion then, and have
done so again. Although I do reserve the right to speak up if "jbor"
and "David Morris" and the rest of that anonymous crowd continue to
lie about what I've said.
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