Genoa (was Re: Who provokes whom?

[Doug Millison]

Terrance,

The posts in this thread have made it very clear that in Italy we are
talking about a contemporary political party which has a role, apparently,
in the multiparty government and which claims status as the inheritor of the
Fascist tradition in Italy - this is not a matter of speculation; I've
provided links to some articles that you are free to read (putting to rest
the claim of "no facts, no substance").  What's your problem with that?  If
you want to talk about Fascism in some other sense, as it seems you do,
that's fine, too.  But I don't think you can discount the facts of current
events. This thread also contains discussion of police brutality and murder
which is common to police forces in all countries I've ever heard anything
about, Fascist, fascist, "democratic" and otherwise, but which in Italy take
on a special significance given the very real Fascist past and present (as
delimited above) in that country.  At any rate, Pynchon seems to mix it all
up pretty well, too, by displacing his discussion of America and the world
in the 50s and 60s back onto WWII in GR and back to the American colonial
and post-Revolutionary period in M&D, specific references in V.'s pre-Nazi
era historial settings, with reference to practices and events that
reverberate with echoes of Fascist history.

You're right, I was teasing Thomas a bit in my response about democracy
electing Fascists.  I guess you're the only P-lister allowed to do that?
Lighten up, pardner.