NP police kill protester in Genoa - eyewitness account

[Otto]

I cannot see this young man as a simple terrorist and I don't see the
killing cop, a young man too, as a mean killer. But I've heard this story
too often, killed protestors by armies of cops or other security/military.

Just because this has happened in a so-called "democratic" state (and I
don't take Berlusconi's openly neo-fascism as so important) it doesn't mean
that it is justified.

The next G8-meeting will be somewhere in Arabia I've heard and this
feudalistic "environment" is a much more apppropriate place for the big
guys.

jbor :
> > If the journalists
> > that are being quoted are as partial and irrational as some of the posts
> > I'm seeing, then who do you believe.
>
> Yes. For example, the article that jbframe posted seems like it could be
> legit, but when that info first got posted it was trumped up with
> propagandist bullshit about police arresting people and forcing them to
say
> "Long Live Mussolini" in police stations with pictures of Il Duce hanging
on
> the wall. And the masked, fire extinguisher-wielding rioter attacking the
> police van that we all saw on the news: is he supposed to be one of these
> agents provocateurs, or one of the "peaceful protesters", or an innocent
> bystander? Or is he in fact what we all saw we was: a terrorist. Who was
> attacking whom in those photos. Wasn't the young policeman cowering in
fear
> in the van? Hasn't he been charged with manslaughter over the incident?
It's
> sad and a tragedy, sure, but why do I get the suspicion that if it had
gone
> the other way and the police van had been overrun and the policemen killed
> -- I mean, what were all those protesters trying to do with their fire
bombs
> and metal bars and fire extinguishers -- then there would be people here
who
> would *still* be blaming the cops and the governments and George Bush, and
> saying that the cops deserved it?
>
> And while I'm a little suspicious of the way that it was timed and
> orchestrated, isn't it a *good* thing that the Kyoto Agreement is getting
> a second wind? Is that one of the things all the anti-globalisation,
> anti-government lobbyists want to stop?
>
> The other particularly worrying thing I heard on the local news yesterday
> was that there was some international vote in London about setting up
whale
> reserves in the Pacific which, even though it ended up 20 to 13 votes in
> favour of the reserves, with 4 abstentions, the proposal was defeated
> because they needed a 75% vote. It was also rumoured that the Japanese
> bought the votes of some of the Carribean delegations with promises of
> financial aid to their countries.
>
> best
>
>
>
>
> on 7/26/01 12:39 AM, Musashi Miyamoto at scuffling at hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Or does a persons questioning the
> > reporting and meaning of this death make them a running dog lackey of
> > the bourgeoisie? I've been called worse, by the best.
> >
> > For what it's worth (FWIW), I've got an open mind on this situation. And
> > I think it's worth discussing. The subject of (re)writing history goes
> > to the heart of Pynch Po Mo. I'm waiting for the real revolution, when
> > people aren't so quick to believe ANYBODY's official explanation.
> >
> > Meet the new journalist, same as the old journalist. (I always crank up
> > "We Don't Get Fooled Again," particularly the end. Yeah! Is that song
> > reactionary or revolutionary?)
>