Is it OK to be a Luddite?
MalignD at aol.com
MalignD at aol.com
Fri Jun 8 08:35:19 CDT 2001
I don't intend to debate this endlessly, but a few comments to a few
responses.
>From Richard Romeo:
<>
What you suppose is not what he wrote. And it is the "more important than"
with which I argue. And yes it is his opinion, and a peculiar and
unqualified one. If all he's going to do is offer it and move on, then I feel
justified in criticizing the quality of the essay.
Most of your other comments, by the way, were rendered all but unreadable by
HTML code in the note I received. Sorry.
To Courtney Givens:
I think it is you who are misreading Pynchon's opening paragraphs, re
specialization (although, I find them largely incoherent, so who knows,
finally). He does write "suspect" and "'may still try' to hide behind" the
jargon of a specialty, but I think that specialized jargon is rewarded less
often with suspicion than with tenured positions at prestigious universities
and spots on MacNeil/Lehrer.
<<Clearly P means [by cranky] querulous, ill-tempered, factious.>>
Fine.
>From Otto:
<<You do misunderstand. The coherence is that with the two-worlds distinction
"nobody could get away" nowadays because of the many "worlds" that have
occured.>>
I stand by what I wrote. The many worlds aren't out of the obliteration of
the original two; rather, the proliferation of subspecies of each. He also
writes: "Anybody with the time ... can get together ..." etc. then writes,
"the problem has really become how to find the time ..." etc. So what is
technically possible is practically very difficult. Not much of a point. In
any case, I don't think Google and a library card are going to help the
generalist master, say, mathematical topology.
<< This is your list -- none of those names can be found in the essay.>>
This is true. It's part of what I meant by "dubious and unqualified
assertions."
<< Maybe you should read a little SF, for example the recently mentioned
Frank Herbert or the Strugatzkis, to get the idea. I could name several great
SF-authors I consider far more important than Th. Mann.>>
Maybe I have read a little SF. If you prefer Frank Herbert to Thomas Mann,
that's nice for you.
Re Eisenhower: << Actually Pynchon says: "although Ike didn't put it quite
that way" [there is a "permanent power establishment of admirals, generals
and corporate CEOs"].
He very nearly did put it quite that way. He said, famously, "beware the
military/industrial complex."
<<This is the crucial point which puts the United States in one line with the
nazis, and this makes this essay "disturbing" for Americans I believe.>>
That is the point, or would be, were it made, rather than insinuated. I
won't try to persuade you that I find it disturbing not because I'm an
American.
<< In 1984 there was no Colin Powell ...>>
Tell that to his wife.
<< In referring to Auschwitz Pynchon doesn't mean "systematic racial
slaughter">>
You know this how?
<<... but he's talking about slaughter on an industrial scale. Where do you
see the words "race" or "Jews"?>>
When the word "holocaust" is used in the same paragraph with "Auschwitz," I
think the inference is justified.
<<In the "Slow Learner"-intro (in the same year as the essay in question) he
says: "(...) that succession of the criminal insane who have enjoyed power
since 1945," -- this is how many people feel about the world's governments in
general.>>
That may be. That doesn't keep it from being rhetorical hyperbole.
<<"Luddism" may be uncommon, but the word "Maschinenstürmer" is common
German.>>
As is the word "sombrero" in Spanish. What's your point?
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