NP the need to impersonate

[barbara100 at jps.net]

Sorry, didn't mean for you to go to all that trouble, Otto.  Just looked
like a drunken rampage last night is all.  Thought you might want to pull
them aside privately and, well.......never mind.
Thanks anyway,
Barbara
PS: Thanks for the Olio vote.  Yeah, he was a real sweetheart...


----- Original Message -----
From: Otto <o.sell at telda.net>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: NP the need to impersonate


> The Names have been changed to Protect the Innocent
>
> Put them to bed? No, why? Two of the most productive and qualitative best
> members of the group!
>
> Barbara, if you really got trouble with some posts, simply delete them -
the
> head-crash deleted 9000 p-list-mails on my hard disc -- I did survive and
> I'm not accusing Big One/Slothrop666 of having destroyed it because I had
> added his e-mail address to my list of unwanted addresses.
>
> I think Robert has a simple question Doug had refused to answer up to
now --
> he had it answered to me offlist some time ago & we all know Doug's answer
> now and personally I'm not convinced that he is "Big One" or
> "Slothrop666" -- with all his open attacks and accusations against "Jbor &
> The Dogpack" of being attacked and accused by the same personnell I've
never
> been able to discover a strategy behind it that would require an anonymous
> poster to be used for accusing others of posting anonymous posts.
>
> All this crime of anonymity. Have you read Nathan's wonderful post? I took
> the time to re-read some Carlton Fist:
> "Does anyone on this list have a job? Where does everyone get the time to
> contribute? No wonder America's in a recession right now; a significant
> portion of its intelligentsia is spending its time arguing with Doug
> Millison."
>
> As far as I can see it's always been this way but it's best to me -- I've
> learned a lot. Finally I belong to the "Dogpack", something I've always
> wanted since the bigger boys wouldn't let me play soccer with them when I
> was six. But this seems to be American Football.
>
> Terrance is angry for being wrongly accused (by Doug) of having set up
> anonymous e-mail accounts -- the truth is these were just identities
(mostly
> humorous-intelligent ones, mostly in some way relating to the topic of the
> discussion) in his e-mail programme but the e-mail-address stayed the
same,
> like Nathan -- I would find out any Terrance-post under what disguise
> whatever, and an open and clearly spoken "asshole" or "fuck off" or
"Creep"
> isn't something I would worry about too much.
> I know about myself that I can be a pretty good arrogant asshole every
once
> in a while if someone gets me on the wrong foot.
>
> Terrance and others are furthermore angry about the fact that Doug has
been
> abusing the list for a stream of Alter.Net messages, wasting my discspace
> too because I have subscribed to it myself. Who could, would & should
> possibly discuss all these messages which are generally saying that this
war
> on terror is a fraud?
>
> I don't know how I would react if someone was constantly & over years
> accusing me of having anti-Semitism "right-winged-streaks" - on a public
> e-mail list and then denying that he has accused me at all, then wondering
> about my complaints and the next day accusing me again.
>
> I'm sorry that Olio has left again so quick, he seems to have the right
kind
> of humour (like Paul & David) we need so desperately on this list which
is,
> on the whole, absolutely ok and the most living e-mail group I've ever
heard
> of. But you must have the nerve. Another Carlton Fist:
> "Do you like William Gaddis? The gaddis list is a sea of calm right now.
The
> most contentious issue since 9/11 has been in deciding whether Jonathan
> Franzen sucks or not."
>
> Or the Musil list or the alternative P-list at yahoo . . .
>
> Otto
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <barbara100 at jps.net>
> To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 1:26 AM
> Subject: RE: Re: NP the need to impersonate
>
>
> > Otto? Quail? Paul? These are your buds? Can you do something about them?
> Drive them home, put them to bed. For God's sake, get them off the road!
> >
> > Original Message:
> > -----------------
> > From: Terrance lycidas2 at earthlink.net
> > Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 19:04:13 -0500
> > To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> > Subject: Re: NP the need to impersonate
> >
> >
> > jbor wrote:
> > >
> > > millison at online-journalist.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Or, maybe you're not who you say you are.
> > >
> > > All those words, distortions, lies and yet still no answer to the
> question:
> > >
> > > Do you post, or, have you posted, as big one @ slothrop666 ?
> > >
> > > best
> >
> > Doug is big one slothrop666.
> > If he denies it he will get the proof posted right down his throat like
> > a cum shot.
> > Get ready asshole.
> >
>
>