Propaganda

[David Morris]

The success/failure of the 60's counterculture isn't really the point here, 
but it's fertile ground for debate (just not this one).  Very Vinelandish 
though (Doug would tell you TV's to blame).

But the point is, the counterculture happened despite (maybe because of) all 
that propaganda.  Terrance's "Chomsky/Foucault" post I think goes to the 
heart of Chomsky's fault/failing:

"do note that in the essay on Propaganda David posted Chomsky divides the 
people as educated and common folk. I find this a despicable ploy. Moreover, 
what he does is to set himself above both as the intellectual who is able to 
see how even the educated masses are being manipulated by
forces  invisible."

      For those who stubbornly seek freedom around the world, there
      can be no more urgent task than to come to understand the
      mechanisms and practices of indoctrination. These are easy to
      perceive in the totalitarian societies, much less so in the
      propaganda system to which we are subjected and in which all too
      often we serve as unwilling or unwitting instruments.
		- Chomsky

"Note that Chomsky also sets himself and his followers
apart, as those who stubbornly seek freedom around the world."

>From: Jerky <tib at virtualservice.com>
>
>David,
>
>Considering the "counterculture" was eventually absorbed, neutered, 
>disinfected and co-opted in toto by the government/establishment after 
>their meager "successes" - [...] perhaps it is you who overrates the 
>failures of the Powers that Be.

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