Oh, no! War talk on Pynchon-L?

[barbara100 at jps.net]

You and Jbor pacifists?  Yeah and those two guys at lunch today in leather
jackets hogging up all the buffalo wings--they were vegans.
Doug, I think we need a Britannica report on "pacifism" next.  (Thank you by
the way for "propaganda.")



----- Original Message -----
From: Terrance <lycidas2 at earthlink.net>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: Oh, no! War talk on Pynchon-L?


>
>
> Doug Millison wrote:
> >
> > I think we've found at least one genuine P-list warmonger (the first to
> > post a congratulatory message to the P-list when the US started bombing
and
> > missile attacks), Terrance, not to mention quite a few others who
> > consistently speak up to support the war, minimize evidence of war
crimes,
> > and otherwise cheerlead for the Bush Administration.
>
> You are a liar. I never posted a congratulatory message to the P-list
> when the US started bombing and missile attacks. I was opposed ot USA
> military action in Afghanistan on September 11th and my position has not
> changed. This despite the fact that I lost family  and friends on
> September 11th. Interesting isn't it, Doug bashes Robert J., a pacifist,
> Thomas E., a pacifist, me, a pacifist, all because we don't agree with
> him and we are discouraged and offended by  his militant rhetoric. Doug
> will say we are not pacifists, because both Thomas and Robert supported
> a limited military response, but he's wrong.  Me, I advocated a regional
> solution to the mess and argued consistently that the USA should not
> lead, fund, orchestrate, of otherwise organize a military action in the
> region. I have consistently condemned USA military action in Iraq,
> Yugoslavia, Africa, Afghanistan, Central America in this forum.  I
> posted my position here and included the statements from  Bertrand
> Russell about how an absolute pacifism may not be the best approach to
> all conflicts.
>
> You dragged me into this when I was ignoring your posts.
>
>
> You have been drooling at every possible bloody news story. Paul's
> right, it's a turn on to you.  You have been screaming body bags and
> body counts and
> dead babies and atrocities and the USA deserves this since September 11.
> You're no pacifist, You're nuts. And we are foolish to keep playing this
> game with you.
> Why would a nice bunch of Pynchon reading people who are so obviously
> liberal and left  want to be called fascist pigs, bush supports,
> warmongers, neo-nazi holocaust deniers...by a man who is so in love with
> war and death? A man so cynical he thinks he needs to fight with us
> about bashing Chomsky. I see Doug dragging Robert into it now. First
> Morris,  dismiss him as a stupid drunk, take a few shots at Paul, call
> him an old man who sends young men like you( grow up and out of Vietnam
> would you) to war, then calls me a Bush supporting fascist again, then
> goes after Robert again and again.
>
> Go read a good book or something.