blaming Clinton

[Richard Romeo]

>A hallmark of the >progressive/Green/activist movement in the U.S. is that 
>it rightly sees >little difference between Democrats and Republicans.
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one could argue doug that one would have to be dead or in debt to the 
political machine not to be aware of this
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>I thought it quite sad to see so many people trying to put the blame on
>Clinton for the  911 attacks -- especially considering that the alliance 
> >between the U.S. and Saudis which appear to lie at the heart of the 
>Islamic >fundamentalist complaint dates back many decades.
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his administration is partly to blame for sure, as does much of post world 
war 2 american foreign policy--yes, the cold war mentality--why else do we 
support such authoritarian regimes--because they're not totalitarian? But 
let's make it clear that there are legitimate grievances in the Arab 
world--the Saudi royal family, Sadat/Mubarak in Egypt maybe the best the US 
can hope for--do we want more Taliban like regimes in such strategic places. 
  It's very complicated how to play this in the real world, but I wonder if 
America is only the rallying point to drum up an Islamic fundamentalist 
front, where power, as we know, seems to be the ultimate goal for those few 
privelaged mullahs

And, of course, the
>U.S.-led sanctions and continued bombing in Iraq which have led to hundreds 
> >of thousands of civilian casualties over the past decade were instituted 
>by >Bush pere, whose CIA escapades may well play a role going even farther 
>back >than that.
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Again, this is not simple an issue with crazy man Saddam hanging around. 
doug--i believe most folks here don't have their head up their ass, we all 
know violence is never the best choice, that innocents are killed, that 
politics and governments of all stripes take advantage, that for the most 
part we are all spectators to what's going on, that the US government is not 
above some nasty realpolitik, that we benefit from such global systems on 
some level, and many elsewhere do not.

I think it's the obviousness of your critiques that get u in trouble--we've 
all heard it before, my friend

Rich
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