blaming Pynchon

John Lundy jlundy at gyk.com.au
Thu Oct 11 17:33:31 CDT 2001



As eloquent as ever, my friend.  You're nothing if not predictable.

On Thursday, 11 October 2001 23:14, David Morris [SMTP:fqmorris at hotmail.com] wrote:
> 
> Who the fuck are you?  Why are YOU so emotional about all this?  Doug can 
> discredit himself without any help from Babs.  She is merely the amusing 
> (but pathetic) icing.  I wouldn't say she's that great a writer, though.
> 
> And if this list is "discredited" (whatever that's supposed to mean), your 
> contributions haven't done much to help it.
> 
> David Morris
> 
> >From: John Lundy <jlundy at gyk.com.au>
> >
> >Okay, you guys.  After that corruscating prose, tell me with a straight
> >face that Babs is Doug.  If they really are, I'm prepared to sleep with
> >Doug.
> >
> >But I think I'm okay.
> >
> >The girl can think and she can write, which makes her almost fucking unique
> >on the sadly discredited list.
> >
> >On Thursday, 11 October 2001 14:37, barbara100 at jps.net
> >[SMTP:barbara100 at jps.net] wrote:
> > > No, Terrance, I can't write anything for you on M&D.  I'm not reading 
> >it.
> >  I
> > > couldn't give up GR in time for M&D. Right now I'm reading Ulysses.  It
> >came
> > > recommended by a fine Australian gent I know. If you want me to write 
> >you
> >a
> > > 'blurb' on Gravity's Rainbow and what I learned about war and humanity
> >from
> > > Thomas Pynchon, I can do that. I've been toying with the idea of writing
> > > something on Byron and his bulb buddies anyway. I think there's a
> >similarity
> > > between them and Blicero and his soldier(s). It's not a big similarity,
> >but
> > > just enough for one to make a 'connection.'  You know, bulbs afraid to
> > > explode against corporate corruption, boys afraid to speak up before
> >being
> > > sent to die--they're both being FUCKED over by the POWERS that be in the
> > > worst and most degrading ways IMAGINABLE, and they're too fucking SCARED
> >to
> > > do anything about it!  There's tremendous POWER in their numbers, but 
> >the
> > > people are too SCARED and too manipulated by external POWER they don't
> >even
> > > unite against their rape and destruction.  It's been happening 
> >everywhere
> > > the same way for as long as we can remember.  We're so accustomed to it
> >now,
> > > we don't even feel it slipping in.
> > >
> > > Maybe you won't like that subject though. I could see how it might turn
> >your
> > > stomach a little. How about the 'brotherhood' theme, then?  Half-breed
> > > Enzian on a mission to erase his race. There's a curious bit of irony.
> > > Makes a girl wanna look twice, you know.  I could talk some about that.
> >  If
> > > Enzian and Tchitcherine aren't a picture of  the brotherhood of man, I
> >don't
> > > know what is.  Pynchon makes sure (or not) his reader comes away from
> >that
> > > book feeling 'connected' to the world. And if you don't catch it in the
> > > humanism, you can catch it in the psychoses. In Paranoia all things are
> > > connected too.
> > >
> > > Go ahead, loosen that sphincter of your soul,  raise your ass to the
> > > Master's whip. It hurts gooood to see our humanity--its brutality and
> >well
> > > as its love.
> > >
> > > Barbara
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Terrance <lycidas2 at earthlink.net>
> > > To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 5:39 PM
> > > Subject: Re: blaming pynchon
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "barbara100 at jps.net" wrote: How I expect you'd notice *that* when you
> > > > can't even see the obvious messages in his work.
> > > >
> > > > Messages? Like what? Come on Barb give us just one little hint.
> > > > Write one post about Pynchon. Not Terrance, not anything else. Kust 
> >one
> > > > little post
> > > > about M&D. I'd like that.
> > > >
> > > > PS Maybe you'll set a trend. Hey, maybe even Doug will post something
> > > > about Pynchon.
> > > > Not a link or a mention, but an honest to god post about one passage 
> >in
> > > > the books.
> > > > Don't get too excited folks. He can't do it.
> 
> 
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