NP Afghanistan

[barbara100 at jps.net]

Okay, Jbor. I see you now. There, there, everything's gonna be alright...Go
to sleep now.



Simply astonishing!


----- Original Message -----
From: jbor <jbor at bigpond.com>
To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: NP Afghanistan


>
> 1. The Taliban's propaganda is that the international forces are at war
with
> the Afghani people. This is absolutely false. Can't you see how this
> propaganda breeds anger and fear? How the anger and fear mount when this
> despicable misinformation is being propagated by cranks in the West as
well?
> How *your* propaganda is working to escalate the refugee crisis, to enlist
> support for Osama?
>
> Did you actually read what those leaflets which the U.S. planes dropped
were
> saying to the Afghani people? We're on their side.
>
> 2. No-one wants Afghani refugees to starve this winter: that's not the
> intention. It hasn't happened, it isn't likely to happen, and it's
> ridiculous to argue as if it has happened. But how can you just dismiss
the
> barbarity and mass murders which *have* happened there, now that the
current
> situation has brought these to our attention? How heartless are you? The
> sooner the Taliban regime is put down the better for everyone.
>
> If you've got a more humane solution -- *any* solution -- let's hear it.
>
> best
>
>
>
> barbara100 at jps.net wrote:
>
> > Will it make you feel better knowing what 'evil' bastards the Taliban
are
> > when you think of their millions starving and freezing this winter? It
won't
> > make me feel any better. Especially in light of the fact that a few
short
> > years ago they were welcomed to Washington as guests of Unocal. Or that
the US
> > government gave them millions of dollars in foreign aide.
> > So they skinned a few folks. It's grim and disgusting, but is it worse
than
> > starving to death a million?  Could their 'evil'ways ever be
justification for
> > killing off so many?
> > Did you read the Logic of War?  Can you imagine? More than 200 million
people
> > killed in war in a short 100 years. How could we call it anything but
insane?
> >
> >
> >
> > Original Message:
> > -----------------
> > From: jbor jbor at bigpond.com
> > Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 08:59:45 +1000
> > To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> > Subject: Re: NP Afghanistan
> >
> >
> > millison at online-journalist.com wrote:
> >
> >> Now, voices all over the world -- if not our own media
> >> here in the US -- are trying to tell us about the terror and suffering
that
> >> we are causing at the other end of the rainbow, in Afghanistan.
> >
> > "We"???
> >
> > The Taliban regime is 'ethnic cleansing' minority Hazara, Uzbek and
Tajik
> > communities. Civilians are burnt alive, whipped with electric cable and
> > mutilated with knives and bayonets. Some are skinned and their bodies
put on
> > public display as a warning. Massacres are common and Taliban fighters
are
> > said to sometimes daub themselves in their victims' blood before
praying.
> >
> > http://www.smh.com.au/news/specials/intl/refugees/index.html
> >
> >> How far might the world be
> >> from a nuclear confrontation similar to that which is said to have made
> >> such a strong impression on Pynchon in the early 60s?
> >
> > About 40 years.
> >
> > best
> >
>