some thoughts on day 1

calbert at hslboxmaster.com calbert at hslboxmaster.com
Wed Sep 12 13:45:17 CDT 2001


herlahp at inet.uni2.dk
> 
> It would probably be useful to examine our Middle East policy. Why do
> the Arabs in general and the Palestinians in particular hate the US
> so. Have we in the Western countries sacrified millions of Palestians
> just to accomodate some Israeli settlers on the West Bank - religious
> fundamentalists who claim God has given them the right to chase out
> the people who lived on this soil?"

is it not possible that Israel and the Palestinians merely offer an 
attractive window dressing for what is actually a jihad? Osama bin 
Laden is Saudi and of hereditary wealth.......according to 
discussions on the news yesterday, he is kind of a total 
fraud...other mujahadeen leaders referred to him as a "toyota 
warrior".....hardly a symbol for the Palestinian cause......more like 
a jaded rich kid amusing himself with explosions and covering his 
actions in self serving rhetoric.....

THis act did NOTHING to further the casue of the palestinians, if 
anything, it clearly retarded the chances of any near term co-
operation....

and again, why should we credit the notion that the levant must be 
"judenrein"? ANd what reason did Moslems have to hate the West 
before 1947?

love,
cfa
> 
> It might be good to examine if we have hatched monsters. Most of the
> Muslim fundamentalists today used to be on the CIA payroll - including
> Bin Laden. The US trained these killer machines to use them against
> the Russians. Today the chicken have come home to hatch. Perhaps we
> should stop arming murderers, who sneak into our own house the next
> day and slit our throats.
> 
> (That is: *If* Muslim fundamentalists are responsible for this. We
> still don't know. It could even be American Nazis).
> 
> First of all we have to stop thinking like military dinosaurs. The
> military brass is ready to fight the cold war battles all over again,
> ready to take on an empire of evil that may never have existed and
> certainly doesn't exist now. The star war missile shield would not
> have helped one iota against this. Even if it worked, it would
> probably mean that nuclear missiles from Iraq were shot down over
> London or Paris in stead of reaching New York. Against terrorists it
> is worse than useless. Worse, because it gives a false security.
> 
> The famous Echelon which monitors all telephone and e-mail
> communication has not been useful here, either. Probably because the
> CIA is to busy monitoring every Greenpeace activist who wouldn't harm
> a fly.
> 
> I do believe an intelligence system is necessary, but it should be
> used against potential terrorists, not against people who just want to
> vote for democratic reforms.
> 
> Terrorists should be hunted down everywhere. They should have no safe
> havens anywhere. Countries that harbour terorrists should learn that
> they will be ostracized - that they will not get economic aid, that
> they will be cut off from the world, until they cooperate.
> 
> All countries should unite in taking terrorists to court, preferrably
> in an international court of justice for crimes against humanity. That
> means American terrorists, too. The US can not continue to live
> outside the world community. So far the US has not been willing to
> accept an international court against war criminals (probably because
> war criminals like Kissinger might be indicted). That must change. The
> whole world must unite against this deadly danger. No country can go
> it alone. We are all together in a globalized world.
> 
> That was a few thought from a Danish outpost on this Day 1 in a world
> that will never be the same again. I would love to hear some
> reactions.
> 





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