NP "the formerly colonised coming back to haunt us"

[Dave Monroe]

That DS9 question apparently having been covered
(thanks, Joseph, I don't recall the episode well
enough myself, nor had I made the connection way back
when, and I'm only just catching up here, so ...) ...

--- jbor <jbor at bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> I think the insinuation here was that the movie's
> production, release and/or popularity now
> deliberately coincide with international anti-
> terrorism, the mooted US-led war on Iraq etc. As a
> sort of subliminal propaganda ...? I'm not sure I
> agree. The three movies were all filmed
> simultaneously, and planning and pre-production, if
> not the actual filming also, were all in place long
> before Sept 11 2001.

Actually laughed out loud at a word choice here.  No,
believe y'all me, I'd be willing to bet that few
followed the production of those films here as closely
as I did (hell, I even used to take notes in the
Elvish alphabet).  And few here are less concerned
with "authorial intent" or whatever than I am, either,
so ... no, me, I'm generally (as one might note I, we
necessarily must) speaking from the reception end of
things here, so ...

So, no, nothing "insinuated," except that--and this is
not so much "insinuation" as assertion--it's not
altogether unreasonable to ask of any cultural
production featuring "heroes" and "villians," "good"
and "evil," "us" and "them," whatever, well, just
who/what else might have been occupying such
positions, being held in such oppositions, in the
various contexts of production/reception involved. 
And so forth.  Any given cultural work has not only
its specific context of production, but varying and
potentially infinite contexts of reception ... 

By the way, all else aside, The Two Towers is great,
and I'm all for an Oscar ((c)) nomination for Gollum,
who I honestly felt no small sympathy for ...

> The early fantasy tales which Tolkien developed into
> _The Lord of the Rings_ were written while he was
> serving in the trenches in WWI, not WWII. _The
> Hobbit_ was first published in 1937.

Actually, they were first told as stories to his
children, or so Christopher Tolkien told it.  He was
in town for the 50th anniversary of the publication of
The Hobbit for the Mythopoeic Society convention ...

http://www.mythsoc.org/

He gave a long account of their provenance at the
dinner, and was kind enough to sign my catalog for the
exhibition of his father's watercolors at Marquette
University's Haggerty Art Museum.  MU, by the way,
owns the Hobbit and LOTR manuscripts, among others ...

http://www.marquette.edu/library/collections/archives/tolkien.html

But, hey, it's not like a whole lotta stuff DIDN'T
happen since then, from name/plot/emphasis/whatever
changes to, well, a war to end all wars and
nonetheless seemingly endless warfare thereafter ...

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