MDDM Ch. 28 Notes & Questions

[Terrance]

see keyword Hollis waste archives and this post from MP Wiener

Date: Wed, 15 Oct 97 11:21:18 -0400 
  From: weemba@[omitted] (Matthew P Wiener) 
  To: pynchon-l@[omitted] 
  Subject: Re: MDMD(9) - George and Gershom 


  Regarding "An Israelite in whom there is no guile" (I think it's from
  John 1:47, actually), I quote from H P Hollis "Jeremiah Dixon....




Dave Monroe wrote:
> 
> If a typo, an interesting one, nonetheless.  Given The
> Crying of Lot 49, a tantalizing undecidability, at
> least, until an authorized corrected ed. appears.  Of
> course, the correction COULD have been authorized in
> the translation, but ... but cf. those authorized
> "corrections" of Samuel Beckett's in his own
> translations of his various texts, by and large
> written initially in French.  Differences for the sake
> of difference, seemingly, differences with which one
> must contend nonetheless ...
> 
> --- jbor <jbor at bigpond.com> wrote:
> > on 17/1/02 10:31 PM, Otto at o.sell at telda.net wrote:
> >
> > > John 1.47:
> > > "Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of
> > > him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no
> > > guile!"
> > >
> > > Why is it 1:49 at p. 278.25?
> > >
> > > The German translation gets it right:
> > > "Mason, der die Quelle als Johannes 1:47 erkennt
> > > (...)" (369.30)
> >
> > Yes, this does seem to be an error, as John noted.
> 
> Anyway, here's John 1:47-51 for anyone interested ...
> 
> 1:47  Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of
> him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!
> 1:48  Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou
> me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that
> Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree,
> I saw thee.
> 1:49  Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi,
> thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.
> 1:50  Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said
> unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, believest
> thou? thou shalt see greater things than these.
> 1:51  And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say
> unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the
> angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of
> man.
> 
> King James Version.  Anything applicable?  Let me know
> ...
> 
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