NP not in the US news

[Richard Romeo]

I guess for me are we talking about general news coverage, op-ed political 
leanings or what?
I don't agree with the folks who write the op-ed pieces in the Wall Street 
Journal, but they do have great news coverage.
I'd say the NY Times op-eds are for me 50-50--i'd also claim that the Times 
domestic coverage has gotten way better (e.g. a three-part piece on adult 
homes in NYC forced the Pataki admin to do something).

that's pynchon take on the nytimes; i don't swallow all of it.
i look fwd to frank rich's editorials on sat.

best,
rich



>From: <barbara100 at jps.net>
>To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>Subject: Re: NP not in the US news
>Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 21:53:19 -0700
>
>Pynchon mentions the Guardian by name in that same Playboy piece, I think.
>Yes, yes, it's then when I started reading it too.  It's all in the
>archives, by the way, Theresa.  Do a search on Playboy and look for
>something from Doug 5 or 6 months ago. He had a friend in Japan who
>translated it for him.  For us.  It suffered a lot in translation, but you
>get a certain feel for someone who says he's distrustful of his government
>and media, however badly translated.  He reiterates the ideas in his
>books--government and big business in bed with each other doing the big
>NASTY while "average citizens" get fucked over by the Powers that be.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Tim Wilson <tim_wilson at sbcglobal.net>
>To: <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 5:57 PM
>Subject: NP not in the US news
>
>
> >
> > it is also a damn sorry state of affairs when the best newspaper for 
>well
> > researched critical reporting on the U.S. is the Guardian out of England
>(in
> > my opinion) - Having just moved back to the States from living in London
>for
> > the last four years and I can tell you it is an absolute shock the way 
>US
> > main stream media treats us as ignorant children. I don't even bother
> > looking at the NY Times or LA times anymore having turned completely to
> > online sources.
> >
> > American Mainstream Media: Institutionalized Subjectivity
> >
> > http://www.counterpunch.org/lynch0509.html
> >
> >
> > >New York Times:  no headline coverage
> >
> > >"[...] The attacks have changed the New York Times. I used to wake up 
>one
> > >hour early to read that paper, but now it is not worth reading sitting
> > >down. There is little useful news in the Times. Most is propaganda. I
>think
> > >the information from White house also includes a lot of propaganda. The
> > >problem is the average citizen cannot distinguish the real news from 
>the
> > >propaganda.  [...] In the time of war, controlling the information is
> > >important and those respected papers cannot be trusted. [...] "
> > >--Thomas Pynchon, post-9/11 comments published in Playboy Japan
>(translated
> > >from English to Japanese and back to English)
> >
> > even prior to the attacks, the Times reporting left much to be desired.
>I've
> > written to them more than once regarding news coming out of Northern
>Ireland
> > that wasn't covered by them, w/no response. Worse yet, what articles 
>were
> > printed reeked of bias. I read it daily as I work in NYC, but thankfully
>am
> > able to rely on other news outlets to form my opinions.
> >
> > BTW, where can I read the entire interview? Thanks!
> >
> > Theresa
> > --
> > tildatoo at optonline.net
> >
> >
>
>


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