Spinning a black web again (was rumor)

[cathy ramirez]

Doug digging:

"....but it is strange how "cathyramirez69"  came in
  attacking me out of the blue and dredging up all
that
old stuff...."

But cathy did not come in attacking Doug. 
She came in in September. Check the archives. By
author:

1. Cathy came in talking about M&D and Swift 
2. (re: Musical Spheres & Plato's V-shaped
device--Compass). 
3. Cathy posted (Re: War & The Death Instinct?) 
4. Re: NP? The word from the CIA: it's the oil, stupid
(Cathy responded to Doug's question, but she did not
attack him or say anything bad about him. The CIA, it
seems, said that war in Iraq was about oil. Doug asked
if the CIA was correct.  Cathy said that war with Iraq
was not about the stupid oil. No attack on Doug. 
5.  re: it's not about the stupid oil.  Again, no
attack on Doug. 
6.  Re: NP? why we fight or Gravity's Rainbow p. 105
no attack on Doug. 
7. Re: Offlist Cathy responds to Doug's unprovoked
attack. Definitely an attack on Doug. 
   the attack on  Doug was posted  Thu, 26 Sep 2002 


Why did Cathy attack Doug on September 26? 

By Date: 

Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 
  From: Doug Millison <pynchonoid@[omitted]> 
  Subject: re: it's not about the stupid oil 
  
http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0209&msg=70860&sort=date

Doug posted a URL and  photos of Cathy Ramirez. 

Why did she post the heading as OFFLIST? 

Because what Doug posts on-list is only half as sick
as what he sends offlist.

When he failed to get a response to his unprovoked
attacks on me offlist, he resorted to posting photos
of a little girl named cathy ramirez. Did Doug know
that little girl? Did he know she was not related to
cathy ramirez? He couldn't be certain but he didn't
care. He suspected that cathy was only a persona. He
wasn't sure though, cause he accused Quail and
Terrance of being cathy. Barbara joined in as did a
host of Doug's puppets. 

Out of the blue and into the black but it all started
with Doug's attack. 
As far as dredging up all that old stuff, it is Doug
who is doing the dredging again. 
He has no pride and no sense. He attacked RJ for
years. He was determined to find out who rj was. Only
Robert Jackson posting under his initials but Doug was
determined to find out if RJ was male or female ( He
frequently baited Robert, referred to rj as he/she)
and if RJ was an academic working on an article or his
dissertation. That this could be the case was very
upsetting to Doug. He baited rj, accusing him of
sucking up to his the academic establishment and so on
and on. This bitter shit has dragged on because Doug
keeps dragging and dredging and spinning. Now he drags
and spins Kraft and PN into his web. How very
unfortunate but this is Doug's MO. 


Who has the time to hunt in the archives? To unspin
what Doug has spun?
And who the hell cares? 

EVERY symptom and EVERY cause of his Black sins. 

Come, listen, my P-listers, while I tell you again
The five unmistakable spins
By which you may know, if  hunting the archives we go,
Every black symptom & cause of his sins. 

Let us take them in order. The first is his taste,
Which is Black and bitter and mean:
Like a coat that is rather too tight in the waist,
and what it squeezes from his choleric spleen. 

His habit of dredging up black bitter feuds
and dragging in scholars unawares
Frequently frightens off  Maximum Dudes
Or traps them in his self-serving snares. 


The third is his slowness in taking a jest.
Should you happen to venture on one,
He will wail like a thing that is deeply distressed:
And he always looks black at a pun. 

The fourth is his fondness for militant language
which he constantly Pitches about, 
And believes that they add to the beauty of things
a dim sentiment open to doubt. 

The fifth is a black need to control
what is said in the name of his god
and a habit for naming what he can not understand 
neo fascist neo nazi. 
Poor sod. 


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