please, no more hate mail on Pynchon-L

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grow the fuck up you dumbass. jesus christ.






>From: Doug Millison <millison at online-journalist.com>
>To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>CC: yenamand at cs.umn.edu
>Subject: please, no more hate mail on Pynchon-L
>Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:05:25 -0800
>
>Fellow P-listers,
>
>At the risk of inviting insult from the usual suspects, I want to express
>my concern for Terrance, and about the increasingly violent imagery he uses
>in his posts to Pynchon-L, and to ask that threatening messages about me
>(and others) cease to be posted in this unmoderated forum.
>
>I've shared these concerns directly with Terrance earlier today, and with
>the Pynchon-L list owner.
>
>For a long time now, Terrance has published on Pynchon-L posts in which he
>depicts me being physically assaulted. (Morris and MalignD have also taken
>part in this activity, but I don't recall anything along that particular
>line from Morris or MalignD recently, just the usual obscenities and slurs
>and misogyny, until I filtered them out of my email box).
>
>I mentioned this fact to our family attorney, as an aside to other
>business, in a meeting today, when he asked if I had any other concerns. He
>urged me to formally warn Terrance (and other P-listers) against making
>threats to me in any medium, and to warn Terrance specifically against
>publishing such threats in a public forum such as Pynchon-L.   "In a world
>where sick people drive cross-country to shoot complete strangers, you've
>got to protect yourself," he told my wife and me.
>
>In particular, I mentioned the homicidal fantasy posted to the list
>recently by "Monica"/meet_mersault at hotmail.com, an email persona generally
>understood on Pynchon-L to be the creation of Terrance
>(lycidas2 at earthlink.net).   On the off chance that Monica is the creation
>of somebody else, I also sent a formal warning directly to
>meet_mersault at hotmail.com.
>
>I formally warned Terrance and  "Monica"/meet_mersault at hotmail.com against
>this sort of thing today, in an email stating,  "I do not wish to receive
>this sort of hate mail nor to figure in images that involve knives,
>cutting, blood, rape, etc. , and other acts of violence -- depicted in gory
>detail -- done to my person, nor do I want them to be broadcast to hundreds
>of Pynchon-L subscribers, and  available for viewing (in the Pynchon-L Web
>archives) by anybody with a Web browser.  In the context of the
>increasingly hostile messages Terrance has been posting to Pynchon-L about
>me (and [about] a few other people), I want to stop this threatening
>behavior before it gets out of hand."
>
>I went on to say:  "If you're joking, it's not funny.  If you can control
>yourself, please do. If you need to get counseling or some other sort of
>help, please do that, too.  The sort of homicidal fantasy you express in
>this recent message represents, I fear, a symptom of a serious
>psychological or biological problem that may require immediate attention.
>
>"If you can't control yourself, I'll take whatever legal steps that I must
>take  in order to protect myself. Please consider this a formal warning, a
>written notice.  I am also forwarding this and related email to our family
>attorney, who has already begun to research the steps that we can take to
>ensure the safety, security, well-being, and good name of myself and my
>family.   As I'm sure you're aware, an investigation, if undertaken by the
>proper authorities, will uncover your identity in order to put a stop to
>this threatening hate mail.  I urge you to stop this threatening behavior
>immediately."
>
>It's not difficult to imagine the emails that may flow in response to this
>message, that's to be expected, based on past behavior here.  Keith is
>likely to make a little joke about it, Mackin to seek to marginalize it in
>some manner, Otto will defend Terrance against any accusation, jbor will
>attempt to "deconstruct" this post, etc.  I've got you folks filtered out
>of my email box, so I won't see them until somebody forwards them to me.
>
>If you think this is making a mountain out of a molehill or is otherwise
>inappropriate, please reconsider. For those of you who still retain some
>shred of human feeling, I ask you to consider how you would feel to be the
>center of these violent fantasies, disseminated by strangers, what any
>court would easily understand as threats and which, in the current climate
>of fear, would be taken seriously.  If you disagree with my
>characterization of these posts, perhaps you can conjure up some sympathy
>for Terrance who appears to be increasingly out of control.
>
>In the single phone conversation I had with Terrance, some time ago, he
>presented himself as an unstable person, quite unpredictable in his
>behavior.  Since that time, based on his communications on Pynchon-L, he
>seems to have degenerated.  I hope Terrance will get the help he needs, and
>that he will cease this behavior.  Pynchon-L has always been a
>free-wheeling venue, unmoderated, extremely tolerant of insult and
>character assassination, which has been widely indulged in by many people
>here.  I have participated in some of that behavior in the past; but, I
>have not published any fantasies here that depict any of my interlocutors
>as victims of a bloody crime.  Depicting me as a dead victim is creepy,
>hateful, and threatening, and represents a step well beyond the sort of
>discourse that has typically characterized  the Pynchon-L discussion.
>Terrance and his personae have moved beyond funny, into something quite
>sinister, imo.
>
>Post-ironically,
>Doug
>
>
>Let the flames begin if they must, but please, no threats, no fantasies of
>physical violence with me -- or anybody else -- as the victim.   I won't
>respond onlist to anything more in this thread.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Doug Millison - Writer/Editor/Web Editorial Consultant
>http://www.Online-Journalist.com


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