[Fwd: OFFLIST third warning Re: please, no more hate mail on Pynchon-L]

[Terrance]

Sorry guys,  I have to post it to the list. 
We've all seen this before. And unfortunately it can't be kept OFFLIST. 

Sorry, 

Terrance 



Doug Millison wrote:
> 
> OFFLIST
> 
> Terrance,
> 
> I've asked you many times now to stop sending me email, and I urge you once
> more to cease.
> 
> If you publish no more bloody fantasies about beating, raping, or killing
> or otherwise physically harming me to Pynchon-L, and if you stop harassing
> me by sending email directly to me, I won't have to take any legal action
> against you.
> 
> Your actions have moved well beyond word play and joking -- they constitute
> threats and harassment, and your most recent threats come after many posts
> in which you have portrayed me as the victim of various assaults, rapes,
> etc.  Deny it if you wish, but should you continue to make these threats
> against me, I'm happy to let the law sort it out and determine whether you
> are just a garden variety Internet wacko, or if you indeed represent a
> threat to me and others -- the several legal and medical professionals I
> have already consulted about you have urged me to go ahead and seek the
> help of the authorities, to be on the safe side, after learning that you
> have contacted me by telephone, that you know where I live, that you have
> published a increasingly violent series of fantasies about me (and several
> other Pynchon-L subscribers) involving rape, physical assault, homicide,
> etc.   These independent observers agree that you have crossed the line
> from Internet flaming to threats and harassment.
> 
> By the way, if you persist in these threats and in your harassment, you
> will not be hearing from my attorney, but from the legal authorities who
> have jurisdiction in this sort of matter.
> 
> I have no influence over the management of Pynchon-L, but I am asking the
> list owner to consider whether or not Pynchon-L should continue to post
> threatening hate mail from you about me or any other participant in the
> Pynchon-L discussion.  You have had many vicious things to say recently
> about Barbara, as well as about JB Frame, on Pynchon-L, too.
> 
> I ask you to stop threatening and harassing me, and to get the help you so
> obviously need.
> 
> Doug Millison - Writer/Editor/Web Editorial Consultant
> http://www.Online-Journalist.com
> 
> At 10:59 AM -0500 10/31/02, Terrance wrote:
> >Doug Millison wrote:
> >>
> >> Fellow P-listers,
> >>
> >> At the risk of inviting insult from the usual suspects, I want to express
> >> my concern for Terrance, and about the increasingly violent imagery he uses
> >> in his posts to Pynchon-L, and to ask that threatening messages about me
> >> (and others) cease to be posted in this unmoderated forum.
> >
> >how nice that you are concerned about me. jeeeez doug, i'm touched. but
> >i suspect you are not being honest because you are much too concerned
> >about you to be concerned about anyone else.
> >>
> >> I've shared these concerns directly with Terrance earlier today, and with
> >> the Pynchon-L list owner.
> >
> >in other words you sent this message to the owner of this list already
> >but you can't resist sending it again.  i'm sure the owner appreciates
> >that. and i'm sure he doesn't have any interest in this stupid flame
> >fest.
> >
> >>
> >> For a long time now, Terrance has published on Pynchon-L posts in which he
> >> depicts me being physically assaulted. (Morris and MalignD have also taken
> >> part in this activity, but I don't recall anything along that particular
> >> line from Morris or MalignD recently, just the usual obscenities and slurs
> >> and misogyny, until I filtered them out of my email box).
> >
> >this is BS. i wrote an elegy for jbframe because he said he was going to
> >slit his wrist.
> >he was joking. i was joking. i did not write a poem or limerick about
> >you.
> >
> >you wrote two about me.
> >
> >in one, i stick my head down the toilet.
> >in the other, i am depicted inflicting pain on myself
> >
> >so i guess i should call my lawyer.
> >
> >but of course i won't, yet, cause i have a sense of humor, it's kinda
> >required round here.  and i know we were playing. in fact i played the
> >limerick professor and "corrected" your work. this got you angry and i'm
> >sorry about that.
> >but obviously i'm no teacher of limericks and you're no student of
> >poetry.
> >at first you played the game honestly and humorously. i suggested that
> >you should hang around great limerick makers and rappers to improve your
> >skills. you changed the subject
> >to "1 mo 4 da T-thang"  (obviously you were playing along) and gave it
> >another shot with the tortured pickle poem. I wrote back saying that
> >poem was better and gave it a 7.6 mark on the limperdick scale.
> >obviously you were playing along. and you are the one that was composing
> >the poems about me. i never wrote one about you. this also pissed you
> >off because you sent me this offlist.
> >
> >[[[[I guess you have to work overnight on yours?
> >It's a good thing you don't have to make a living as a writer, as I have
> >done these past 20 years; increasingly, editors don't  pay often by the
> >word these days, they pay by the project -- and, it's well-written stuff
> >they want, on short deadlines.
> >Speaking of SLSL and who's going to do what, I notice you didn't sign up
> >to
> >host a session.  But I'm sure we can expect lots of big Melville and
> >Dewey
> >chunks sprinkled throughout, and other pointless kibbitzing.
> >Have a wonderful day, big fella.
> >P.S. Let's just hope I can get my email filters working properly and
> >keep
> >your gibberish out of this mail box.  Until then, I'd rather not receive
> >any more email from you, so please reply only to Pynchon-L and not to
> >me.]]]]]
> >
> >still, i've not written a poem about you, doug. and i've not described
> >you with your head down the toilet or bond up with tears trickling down
> >your face. you wrote poems about me like that.
> >
> >i did write one about malignd dry humping, one about chiquita banana and
> >one about this fabulous orgy's sinking ship. you are not mentioned or
> >alluded to in any of these poems. as usual you are just lying.
> >
> >>
> >> I mentioned this fact to our family attorney, as an aside to other
> >> business, in a meeting today, when he asked if I had any other concerns. He
> >> urged me to formally warn Terrance (and other P-listers) against making
> >> threats to me in any medium, and to warn Terrance specifically against
> >> publishing such threats in a public forum such as Pynchon-L.   "In a world
> >> where sick people drive cross-country to shoot complete strangers, you've
> >> got to protect yourself," he told my wife and me.
> >
> >ok, so now we are getting someplace. you went to a meeting and met with
> >your lawyer.
> >and when you brought up the p-list and this crazy guy named terrance
> >what did he say?
> >if he's a good family lawyer he probably called your family doctor or
> >your wife, but if he's not such a good family lawyer he probably asked
> >you if this guy terrance has big bucks. of course i'm loaded but you
> >can't get any of it. ha! ha! you might waste a lot of time and money
> >trying, but you'll never get one of my coffee beans. No one.
> >
> >But Good luck all the same,
> >
> >Terrance waiting for the knock on the door (will it be a trick or a
> >cop?).