NPPF - Preliminary - Pale Fire

Jasper Fidget jasper at hatguild.org
Mon Jul 7 11:40:22 CDT 2003


Does Marcel ever get to the point where he writes it?  Can't remember.  I
suppose the definition might be extended to include all Kunstlerroman.
(Interesting angle: _Pale Fire_ as Kunstlerroman.... -- a bit of a stretch
certainly.)  

See 162 for Kinbote's rant on Proust.

akaJasperFidget

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On
> Behalf Of Paul Mackin
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:08 PM
> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
> Subject: Re: NPPF - Preliminary - Pale Fire
> 
> On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 09:47, Jasper Fidget wrote:
> >
> >
> > _Pale Fire_ is an "involuted" (or "self-reflexive") novel -- a novel
> that
> > contains the details concerning its own origin or composition.  An
> > antecedent is Andre Gide's _The Counterfeiters_ (1926) which is a diary
> kept
> > by a novelist about a work-in-progress called _The Counterfeiters_
> (followed
> > in the same year by Gide's _Journal of The Counterfeiters_, the journal
> he'd
> > kept while writing the novel _The Counterfeiters_).  There's at least
> one
> > reference to Gide in _Pale Fire_.  Another example of an involuted
> novel:
> > Raymond Queneau's _Les Enfants du Limon_ (1938).  Anyone got more?
> 
> Strange word involuted. Shade uses involute in Canto Three.
> 
> No sound,/No furtive light came from their involute/Abode,
> 
> Isn't A la recherche du temps perdu a reflexive novel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> P.
> 





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