NPPF: CANTO ONE D. Fowler/ for Jasper
Michael Joseph
mjoseph at rci.rutgers.edu
Mon Jul 28 13:05:27 CDT 2003
Jasper,
Nabokov wrote a book on meter if I'm not mistaken, which provides the
answer to your question. His views on the importance of it are
demonstrated in his translation of Pushkin, which retain the similitudes
within Pushkin's own metrical scheme, and are elaborated on in his
correspondence with Lowell, who wrote that for a translation to retain
both the form and the meaning of the original was impossible. Nabokov
essentially says, well, then I've done the impossible.
Best,
Michael
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Jasper Fidget wrote:
> > From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On
> > Behalf Of cfalbert
> >
>
> >
> > CFA note......Pope and Goldsmith wrote in this form, Wordsworth had
> > already moved on to "free verse" and Tennyson (as Jbor has pointed out, a
> > major influence on PF) was switching to a "abba" (Italian Sonnet) rhyme
> > scheme, and what I believe is iambic tetrameter....
> >
> > this may all sound somewhat techincal, but if you take a look at a few
> > representative verses of each, you will quickly note the differences in
> > "effect".
> >
> > love,
> > cfa
>
> > It just dawned on me that the use of this particular scheme
> > contrasts nicely with the ambiguous codes it looks to communicate.....
>
>
> Thanks for the clarification, Charles. Given your timeline (with which I
> have some distant familiarity from my previous career as an English major),
> I think it might be useful to ask why Shade positions himself before
> Wordsworth. Shade is a Pope scholar of course, so he is likely to be more
> familiar or comfortable with this form, and perhaps he prefers it, but it's
> certainly not cutting-edge poetry (I have a friend who may still have
> Charles Bernstein's number and email -- maybe I'll ask him to ask for an
> opinion). We can surmise Shade's opinion of Eliot. Is he a "retro" poet?
> Does Shade want a return to older forms, is he an anti-modernist? Is he
> therefore likely to be as widely accepted and lauded in 1959 as we are given
> to believe?
>
> Also, as you say, why is the form of the poem so clearly at odds with the
> subject? Is poetry a closed ("vicious") circle to him? Is "Pale Fire"
> thematically an attempt to escape from its own form? Are twenty questions
> enough?
>
> Jasper
>
>
>
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