Off-topic, off-list, off in da rhetoric zone somewhere...

joeallonby vze422fs at verizon.net
Sun May 4 17:02:38 CDT 2003


on 5/4/03 2:46 PM, Prsamsa at aol.com at Prsamsa at aol.com wrote:


Posted earlier as the Netiquette plea that never ends.

I wish the same of his antagonists, who also fuel the fire with their barbs,
insults, and insinuations.  Please cut it out, everyone, if only to please
moi and keep me from milking the fire metaphors even more.

Predictably and desparingly d.
___________________

Yes and yes.  Very true--the cut it out part--but to hell with it basically,
let the rhetoriticians of the Left Side, West Side, Right Side, and always
the "I'm right,
you're wrong side" take over the list until their limp souls and fingers
gnarled from
keyboard entropy dry up, but I figger dryly, if old Rocketman were ever
watching
the list, he'd be laughing uncontrollably.
       Some listers are still caught in the dualistic
web of rhetoric, when GR seems to posit then prove
that rationality is a dead end,
just a small and easily misused part of logic and reason;   that
causing uncertainty in their fizzling brainboxes,
some listers then go on to prove Heisenberg right
the observer is always part of the situation
therefore if you post loud enough hard enough
(this part always reminds me of hicks here in the Southwest
who are convinced that if you talk English loud enough to a Spanish-speaker,
they'll understand)  you'll be right;   You'll "win" somehow.
Noone wins the war in Gravity's Rainbow.  And  I haven't seen anyone's mind
be changed by the rhetoric here...
  Fuggedaboudit   I thought this was the kind of list where people
passionately
discussed the finer points of postmodern fiction and TP specifically,
but every posting I've made that say, commented lucidly on MMIV,
asked what avante-garde fiction IS being written'/read recently/
offered up comments on "The Streets" section,
asked about Lineland (a book about the list itself) went as high
as a cement balloon.  All I can do is try to act as old as I am--
not care/react to flames or indifference/ have an idea, speak my passions
backup my belief that TP's a purty fine stylist, a helluva writer
as close to Joyce as my generation's gonna get AND
I'd like to like old Tom believe in human potential
(even us pret's) and the expansion of the mind, but all I believe right now
is--

"April is the cruelest month", a line composed by T. S. Eliot
and played to the bitter end by      (T.)yrone (S.)lothrop Pynchon.

So Screw it.   Pig Bodine was right..."Lucky Pierre.." has more human truth
to it
than all the lines in Marx, all the files in Hoover's headquarters, and all
the bullshit
about weapons of mass destruction we've been recently force fed.
Now Goebbels...smart man...he knew how to use weapons of mass
communications.

(Shudder)  What does it matter who controls the means of production now,
unless it's the production of information?   The web can be a purty good
place
to start anew.   But not with the same old means and the wasted time that
pits
one group constantly against it's equals while They pull the strings.

Oh well.  Kinda offtopic, but I hadn't posted much lately (waste of time)
and I expect this posting (no style, just what's on my mind)
to get the same non-reaction as usual.


Perry, "Samsa" 

Tell me about Lineland. I'll listen.



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