VL is about Work (Marcuse and Vineland's Electrican).2.1

Terrance lycidas2 at earthlink.net
Sat Oct 18 21:18:51 CDT 2003


Hello! I said, when I use the term "Left Wing." I said nothing about
Sasha or any other character in VL. Get a grip. 

Mike Weaver wrote:
> 
> Terrance fishes:
> >BTW, when I use the term "Left-Wing" in these posts I am talking about,
> >
> >1. Communists
> >2. trade unionist who did not belong to Communist organizations (front
> >of otherwise) but who were intellectually and emotionally socialists.
> >3. Fellow travelers or those individuals who agreed with the Party
> >position on a variety of issues, trade union & etc., but were not
> >Communists, either formally or philosophically.
> 
> Mike bites:
> There's a little problem with this definition WRT Vineland -  the IWW were
> as often as not opposed to the communists, Sasha is a Trotskyist, and the
> Party was largely irrelevant to Frenesi's generation of US radicals (Angela
> Davis is the only CP member of significance that I can think of from that
> era.) Making the CP the star at the centre of your left-wing system is fine
> as long as you realise that it is a system with few planets and far more
> comets, most of them heading out.
> The only periods when the vast majority of the non CP left fell into your #
> 3 were 1918-23 and 41-45.



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