VLVL "the Movement"

[jbor]

> Yes, you had already started backpedaling to:
> 
>> but after the campus strikes and the march on Washington in 1970 there were
>> no more protests of note)
> 
> --and you continue to do so.

Not at all; you simply won't accept that the point I've been making all
along is a valid one. You've provided no substantiation to support your
claim that there was ongoing friction and a lack of co-operation between the
various groups commonly categorised as the "student movement" or
"counterculture" (not exactly the same thing but there was certainly
considerable overlap for a number of years) between 1964 (I'd locate the
start of the '60s somewhat earlier than that but heaven forbid that anybody
question your authoritative command of dates) and 1968, the SDS National
Convention debacle specifically.

At this time -- the time in which Pynchon sets a large portion of his novel,
_Vineland_ -- and due to an array of causes, there emerged a definite
rupture in the bipartisanship that had previously prevailed within the
student "movement", and there were sharp divisions in the aims and methods
pursued by the various groups, and bitter squabbles between them, from then
on, i.e., "into 1969 and beyond" as I wrote in my initial reply:

http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0404&msg=89890&sort=date

> That's, you're saying, what you meant all along
> by organization?

I'd said there was "organisational solidarity" (alliances between groups,
mutual support, common causes, a unity of purpose). You've since made the
patently false claim that during the mid-60s "there was no 'organization'"
whatsoever.

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