pynchon-l-digest V2 #3847

[R. Fiero]

David Christensen wrote:
>>"The USA thrives on cheap labor with the big added plus that the
>>groups in the URL are guaranteed to vote conservative.
>>I'm in no mood for this line of bait & switch after having
>>heard C. Rice in testimony this morning filibuster, deceive and
>>stall.  Without one word of apology this corporate slut is just
>>another political operative whose only suggestion to improve
>>security is to improve domestic surveillance" Previous post".
>
>Now after all the historiography about the 60's which I see as a relicised
>false utopian dystopia. A classic piece of Marx. Haha.
>
>You gotta love the struggle and the superstructure. By the way I think
>Pynchon would think that Marxism  is a quasi-religous sect with a flawed
>belief system.
>I mean in the face of even moderate post-structuralist thought is it all
>reducible to capital?
>  I mean its flaw is that it is boring.
>I really think it as simple as that.
>Marxism is dull, depressing and I think most pragmaticsts abhor the concept.
>We have a time. A limited time.
>You choose your theoretical weapons.
>
>The state, capital, how they bend and twist-yet remain all
>powerful----------but for whom. and how and how does it affect YOU.
>  That is simply a more intersting task to ask the verb word than the
>pathetic noun expanation.
>
>Pynchon for me simply is a novelist who appreciates life in all its forms.
>Class is obviously not a category that he uses. He I think is a voyeur on
>the emotional state that our socio-economic environment produces. He  is
>that synthesisof the socio-economic into a literature.
>
>And I applaud him for that.

I'm not sure my remark that elicited the reply is Marxist or 
class conscious in any way and wasn't intended that way.  The 
early Marx is great reading.  The later Marx seems bogus being 
an attempt to make political economy a hard science by lifting 
metaphors from the physics of the time of M&D.  Marx and Engels 
were themselves shocked, horrified and amused at the 
religiosity their efforts generated in their later years.
It has been noted that down here on the ground folks seem to 
want to vote their desired or assumed identities rather than their interests.