VLVL the "Movement"

[jbor]

>> I disagree with his
>> assertion that "strife" and disunity characterised the counterculture and
>> student movement from the start, however.
> 
> That's one of your 'straw men'  - MalignD has never argued what you say he
> has. 

It's what he was arguing yesterday (to quote his words: "try to keep up,
moron") --

> I really used the word "strife" only once, saying:
> 
> <<That there was more strife later than what existed
> at Berkeley--a single university campus during a
> relatively brief period--well; how could it have been
> otherwise?>>
> 
> I.e., any amount of strife or friction would be more
> likely among many groups than within a single group.
> 
> I could as easily have said "disunity" or "lack of
> unity."

http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0404&msg=90135&sort=date

I take his argument to be that there was always disunity in the student
movement and the counterculture. My argument is that there was more cohesion
and mutual support (i.e. unity) across a range of groups in the earlier
phase, in that these groups were pursuing common causes, often
co-operatively.

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