Ethnic stereotypes
Dave Monroe
monropolitan at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 30 09:21:15 CDT 2004
Hardly "my" racist joke, Kai. Rather, speculation on
one of Ralph Wayvone, Jr.'s. As Umberto himself
understood at the time. Viz. ...
VLVL2 (15): Ralph Wayvone, Jr.
"He didn't get to the Cuke quite in time to miss Ralph
Wayvone, Jr., in a glossy green suit accented with
sequins, who was cracking jokes into the mike to warm
this crowd, who in Ralph's opinion needed it, up."
(VL, Ch. 15, p. 356)
Ralph Wayvone, Jr.
Cf. Frank Sinatra and/or Desi Arnaz, Jrs.?
"'one slip of the tongue''"
p. 356 "...one slip of the tongue..." Arguably the
worst joke in any of Pynchon's novels. Gross!
http://www.mindspring.com/~shadow88/chapter15.htm
Okay, I actually find that one funny, so ...
"'How to Get an Italian Woman Pregnant'"
p. 356 "How to get an Italian Woman Pregnant." We
have found two versions of this joke:
Q: How do you get an Italian woman pregnant? A: And
they say the Italians are stupid!
Q: How do you get an Italian woman pregnant? A: Fuck
her.
http://www.mindspring.com/~shadow88/chapter15.htm
But see as well ...
How do you get an Italian woman pregnant?
Cum in her shoes and let the flys [sic] do the rest.
http://www.wvi.com/~jdhoeye/groaners.html
I choose Bachelor No. 2 ...
http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0405&msg=90881
And Umberto's response ...
In data 20 May 2004, verso le 16:17, Dave Monroe si
trovò a scrivere su VLVL2 (15): Ralph Wayvone, Jr.:
> How do you get an Italian woman pregnant?
> Cum in her shoes and let the flys [sic] do the rest.
When I was in the States I heard different versions of
the joke (let's call it so) where "Italian" had been
replaced by "Mexican", "Chinese", etc. Very nice.
http://waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l&month=0405&msg=91038
Perhaps yr post (see below) wasn't worded quite as
carefully as it might have been ...
--- lorentzen-nicklaus
<lorentzen-nicklaus at t-online.de> wrote:
>
> Yeah, tell me about us! After you have put
> those ethnic stereotypes on Umberto (gondolier,
> pasta etc), assisted by Dave's racist joke
> ('..cum in her shoes and let..') ...
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