Anti-German for newbies

cfalbert calbert at hslboxmaster.com
Mon Mar 1 16:59:13 CST 2004


So why the suicide bombing activity in Tel Aviv?

That became "Israeli" by virtue of a very mundane real estate transaction, 
in the course
of which I seriously doubt Y****h name even came up....

Got any indignation to spare for the Lebanese?


love,
cfa


At 01:41 PM 3/1/04, you wrote:
>I think this paranoia about the destruction of the state of Israel is the 
>significant and successful propaganda campaign. You would thing that 
>Palestinians were taking Israeli  land, that Israelis were being walled 
>into Ghettos where the  Israeli army can storm in and rob the banks and 
>kill whoever they please without legal process. I am not projecting 
>"innocence " on the Palestinians, but the Sharon policies, aligned with 
>the imperial control strategies of the American Empire are monstrously 
>self serving  and fascistic. Many Israelis are as passionately opposed to 
>these policies as those you designate as leftists. If Justice is on the 
>left side of some magic line then I am a leftist.  The designation of 
>political  wings are mostly a mostly a stupid and useless means of name 
>calling and a means of deflecting an argument from real facts and ideas.
>
>. Taking land and political rights from the 1000 year inhabitants of a 
>place based on what your tribal god told your ancestor hundreds of 
>generations ago is hard to justify as an untaintedly just cause , nor is a 
>book written by  Jews a reasonable basis for  settling real estate 
>disputes with non Jews..
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From:<mailto:KXX4493553 at aol.com>
>To: 
><mailto:kumpe3000 at gmx.de>kumpe3000 at gmx.de;<mailto:pynchon-l at waste.org>pynchon-l at waste.org
>Sent: 3/1/2004 6:45:06 AM
>Subject: Re: Anti-German for newbies
>
>In einer eMail vom 01.03.2004 12:13:26 Westeuropäische Normalzeit schreibt 
>kumpe3000 at gmx.de:
>
>
>>Otto cited the Anti-Germans and wrote:
>> >"the current commitment of the Germans in the Near East could lead in =
>>the long run to Israel losing its sovereignity step by step and to put =
>>Israel under international supervision, which would probably lead to its =
>>destruction."
>>
>>This is so off the track that it's just ridiculous.<
>>
>>Sorry Otto,  I am tempted to argue about this.
>>I harbour little sympathy for so Anti-Germans, yet I see some truth in your
>>quotation. Even the supposedly neutral "Tagesschau" TV-news from the
>>federal TV-network ARD, has a significant pro-palestinian bias in it's
>>reporting. I only came to realise this after visiting Israel AND the
>>Westbank some time ago. Issues looked significantly different on the
>>ground, than in the german media. It was quite a shock to me.  There i! s
>>some long-time palastinian propaganda going on, trying to establish the
>>image of a palestine people tortutred in the hands of zionist madmen and
>>abandoned by the rest of the world. It began with all this PLO
>>merchandising in the seventies, and profits from some unreflected leftist
>>ideology (p-listers excluded)that established itself as "intellectual" in
>>the last decades.  Some of the brighter palestinian leaders have learned to
>>benefit from this victim image and shurely have some phantasies like this
>>quotation above.
>>Anyway, I don't believe they will succeed, for they act much too stupid on
>>the ground, and have learned nothing about coordination and the finer
>>skills of psychological warefare.
>>best,
>>Christian.
>
>
>I agree with Christian in this point. Although I know ! some of these 
>Anti-German guys personally and cannot like the! m - they are hardly 
>bearable, they remind me at the polit-sects in the seventies -, in this 
>point -concerning the one-dimensional tv reporting in the German media - 
>they are right.
>kwp
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