VL the Deal :more arguments

[Joseph Tracy]

jbor said:     and then arranged with the camp "commandant" for Brock to come and have sex with her,
Where in the text did this happen?

jbor also said , it's the cop, Ron, who stands "unobserved in the afternoon shade" --
> not Zoyd (304).
Ridiculous; there's nothing wrong with Pynchons compact sentences. All 3 are in the shade, unobserved, Zoyd held in humiliation to watch Brock's triumphal demonstration of ownership.

Terrance said: Brock and Sasha draw up the contract
Where is the textual exvidece that these 2 collaborated.  I agree that Frenesi and Hector  probably worked out the details, arranging for Sasha to show up,Prairie to go back to Zoyd and both to leave etc. But here is what Sasha says :" All that fascist prick wants is to keep Frenesi from seeing her child again . Usual thing , men making arrangements with men about the fates of women. She is also surprised by Vond's presumption that Sasha won't let Frenesi near Prairie saying  "Let him think so, gives us that much more room to breathe.

 Terrance also said: Prairie rejects her parent's values, including her Mother's bisexuality ( DL & Ch?) and her
father's music, drugs, selfish irresponsibility, their notion of family.
After being all familied out she turns to Brock for some family values.
?
How is Zoyd so selfishly irresponsible when it comes to Prairie? He is the only one who is always there for her. We see frquently in the details of their interaction his love,  parental skill and concern. The music she likes is the logical generational continuation of Zoyd's eclectic rock interests.  When she visits her friend in LA she sees how fortunate she is to have Zoyd for a Dad.  Where is the textual evidence that her mother's youthful bisexuality had any major influence on Prairies' thinking  or self definition?.
 All in all, this is really stretching it. "Rejects" is way too big of a word for Prairie's relationship to either of her parents. Also she doesn't "turn to Brock for some family values".
She is naturally curious about him when he drops into her life and family history . In the end  she shows far more of Zoyd and Sasha's  influence on her character than anyone else in the story. And she is just as interested in the young Russian rocker than in the insane fascist who drops down into her family picnic like an unexploded bomb, and who may or may not be her biological father, but whose strings are jerked by RR and who self destructs as soon as he ventures out from under orders to find himself joining the other Thanatoid who may or may not be her father.  In the end his claims on her do not take hold. Prairie is an open spirit discovering her past and present , and in these discoveries finding the largeness and strangeness of her country and the world. In the end her sense of home is restored by the meadow in the  redwoods, the soaring hawk  and the friendly lick of the family dog.  

I agree that Takeshi's role is pivotal.  As characters he and Hector  add great fun and strangeness. 

I'll be gone for a week to install some stained glass windows in a church in Cape Cod.  have fun .

Joseph Tracy
brook7 at earthlink.net
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